[Info-vax] Android development Was Re: OT: Larry Ellison takes retirement as CEO of Oracle

[Johnny Billquist]

On 2014-09-23 16:10, David Froble wrote:
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On 2014-09-22 01:20, David Froble wrote:
>>>
>>> I disagree.
>>>
>>> If you got x86 code running in kernel mode, it owns the system.  If it
>>> needs OS capabilities, then yes, it would need to know about VMS.  But
>>> if all it needs to do is load in it's own microkernel, and networking,
>>> then VMS is then totally out of the picture.  Now you've been truly
>>> hacked.
>>>
>>> Just because it doesn't understand RMS is little help at this point.
>>
>> *How* do you get the x86 code running in kernel mode, without
>> involving the OS at all???
>>
>>     Johnny
>>
>
> I'm not some asshole hacker.  I haven't given it much thought.  If I
> could answer your question, I'd be maybe 90% of the way to write malware
> to do just what I've suggested.
>
> Your attitude of "that can't be done" is much appreciated by the hackers.

Or maybe I'm right. You know, in general it helps to understand the 
topic before making claims. :-)

	Johnny