[Info-vax] Eisner's PAKs, was: Re: Can't get hobbyist licenses from Openvmshobbyist

Bill Gunshannon bill at server3.cs.scranton.edu
Wed Jan 21 08:02:25 EST 2015


In article <m9meoe$tr4$2 at dont-email.me>,
	David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <m9m31h$asl$1 at dont-email.me>,
>> 	David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>> John Reagan wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 9:41:59 AM UTC-5, David Froble wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to suggest that the entire PAK system with VMS be junked.
>>>>> Now before anyone has a hissy fit, consider.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any legitimate commercial user of VMS is going to "follow the
>>>>> rules". That's just the way it is, and if they are not, well, what
>>>>> has been lost?
>>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, that isn't the truth.  We had several legitimate
>>>> commercial customers who wanted some license management facility to
>>>> track all their licenses.  They were unsure of what they had (and
>>>> perhaps HP was unsure as well?) and an architected solution to
>>>> manipulate licenses was invented.  The additional aspects of version
>>>> dates, release notes, etc. was all to help customers stay 'legal'.
>>>> The added 'benefit' of using LMF as a way to prevent piracy was a
>>>> secondary goal.  Later on, we realized that LMF also allowed new ways
>>>> to license/sell products with things like per-user licensing,
>>>> per-node licensing, icap, etc.
>>>>
>>>> John (who was part of the original group who designed these things)
>>> All I'm saying is that preventing usage is non-productive.  So use the 
>>> LMF to track what's installed.  Even better, include much more in the 
>>> base distribution.
>>>
>>> Similar case.  Microsoft giving away free IE.  Why?  To increase market 
>>> share.  To get people using MS products.
>>>
>>> Long gone are the days when you could sell OS software for big bucks. 
>>> Much better is recurring revenue.
>> 
>> You mean like Microsoft's new model for their Office Product?
>> 
>> bill
>> 
> 
> Have no idea, haven't looked at it, probably won't.

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bill

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