[Info-vax] Using VMS for a web server

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk skrev den 2015-06-08 21:06:
> On Monday, 8 June 2015 19:40:59 UTC+1, Jan-Erik Soderholm  wrote:
>> David Froble skrev den 2015-06-08 19:21:
>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Exactly.  I would never run a webserver on a machine that was intended
>>>> to do the data processing for the business.
>>>
>>> It would depend, but I'd usually agree with this.
>>
>> David, how many web servers have *you* setup and managed?
>> On VMS or on any platform?
>>
>> There isn't anything magic with a web server, it is just
>> another application out there. You can use it and you can
>> missuse it as much as you like. Just as any application
>
> It's not really to do with whether Dave's run a webserver...

Dave's "I'll never touch *that*" and "don't run *that* here" attitude
has very much to do with inexperience within the actual area.

I'have been running web servers on VMS since our MicroVAX 3100/90
was the factory main system with great success. And I have no
problem putting a web server on any "modern" VMS system today.

The usual reaction is, "Oh, can you do *that* with *that* system?".

Note, I have no problem that other web service things are run
on other servers where that specific web application runs best.
(And that is more or less everything else around the web that
doesn't have any connection to our VMS applications or data.)

It is always a matter of using the right tool from the right toolbox.
Sometimes the toolbox as a sign saying "VMS", sometimes the toolbox
has some other sign...

But saying, "oh, I'd never use *that* tool from *my* VMS toolbox",
is simply silly.


Jan-Erik.






> (I've tried webservers occasionally and usually given up as
> other folks have been better qualified for the task).
>
> The magic in this picture is that there is a vision in "the
> market" that any 13 year old (or is it IQ of 13, I forget)
> can set up and manage a webserver using "commodity"
> components.
>
> Whether this is an accurate vision is a different question,
> but it is widely held.
>
> Whether the resulting setup is likely to be safe, secure, and
> trustworthy is another different question.
>
> Selling VMS as a webserver platform? There may be more rewarding
> places to start, in general. Doesn't mean there aren't places
> where it would make good sense. Dave needs to get out more, and
> so do I :)
>
> One size may not always fit all, even in webserver stacks.
>