[Info-vax] Using VMS for a web server

[David Froble]

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> David Froble skrev den 2015-06-09 03:11:
>> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>> johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk skrev den 2015-06-08 21:06:
>>>> On Monday, 8 June 2015 19:40:59 UTC+1, Jan-Erik Soderholm  wrote:
>>>>> David Froble skrev den 2015-06-08 19:21:
>>>>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly.  I would never run a webserver on a machine that was 
>>>>>>> intended
>>>>>>> to do the data processing for the business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would depend, but I'd usually agree with this.
>>>>>
>>>>> David, how many web servers have *you* setup and managed?
>>>>> On VMS or on any platform?
>>>>>
>>>>> There isn't anything magic with a web server, it is just
>>>>> another application out there. You can use it and you can
>>>>> missuse it as much as you like. Just as any application
>>>>
>>>> It's not really to do with whether Dave's run a webserver...
>>>
>>> Dave's "I'll never touch *that*" and "don't run *that* here" attitude
>>> has very much to do with inexperience within the actual area.
>>
>> Whhoooooohhhhhh!
>>
>> Where is that coming from?  Some citations maybe?
>>
>> On this specific topic I wrote that it depends, not "never".
> 
>  >> Exactly.  I would never run a webserver on a machine that was
>  >> intended to do the data processing for the business.
> 
> Doesn't it say "never" there?

Hmmmm.  Yes, it does say that.  And I'll probably stand by that statement.

Still, I'm making a note to myself to buy better tasting shoes, as I sit 
here munching on the foot that I put in my mouth ....


>>> I'have been running web servers on VMS since our MicroVAX 3100/90
>>> was the factory main system with great success. And I have no
>>> problem putting a web server on any "modern" VMS system today.
>>
>> Nor do I from a technical perspective.
>>
>>> The usual reaction is, "Oh, can you do *that* with *that* system?".
>>
>> That's lack of knowledge, and we already know who to blame for that.
>>
>>> Note, I have no problem that other web service things are run
>>> on other servers where that specific web application runs best.
>>> (And that is more or less everything else around the web that
>>> doesn't have any connection to our VMS applications or data.)
>>>
>>> It is always a matter of using the right tool from the right toolbox.
>>> Sometimes the toolbox as a sign saying "VMS", sometimes the toolbox
>>> has some other sign...
>>>
>>> But saying, "oh, I'd never use *that* tool from *my* VMS toolbox",
>>> is simply silly.
>>
>> And I didn't write that.
> 
> No, that was a general remark around some of the usual standponts here.
> Not specificaly or exactly something you wrote... :-)
> 
> But "I would never run a webserver on a machine that was
> intended to do the data processing for the business" is
> not that far from that.
> 
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