[Info-vax] Last Call for (New) DEC VT Terminals

Jan-Erik Soderholm jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Sat Jun 27 15:57:40 EDT 2015


IanD skrev den 2015-06-27 21:12:
> On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 4:51:58 AM UTC+10, Jan-Erik Soderholm
> wrote:
>> Scott Dorsey skrev den 2015-06-27 20:00:
>>
>>>
>>> How important is good emulation to you?  Is emulating the vt100 line
>>> 25 bug important?  For me, it's not.  For others it might be.
>>> --scott
>>>
>>
>> I have been using only PC/Windows VT-emulators for 20+ years and not
>> touch a "real" terminal, they just makes me mad for the very limited
>> functionality they have. No logging to a file. No cut-n-paste to my
>> standard Windows email and office tools. Even as a "console" they are
>> more or useless, the LA120 at least left a hardcopy printout...
>>
>> There are some rumors about lack of compatibility around. Someone hade
>> a script that tested DW/DH "problems". Worked just fine in both
>> Reflection and PyTTY when I tested... I have not seen any
>> compatibility issues that have been real show-stoppers. No
>> compatibilty issues at all, actualy.
>>
>> Jan-Erik.
>
> Same
>
> Last real terminal I touched was the VT420, that had rudimentary cut and
> paste from memory

But you could only paste to an open VT session in the terminal itself.
I want/need to paste to Outlook, Word, Powerpoint or similar.
Or using the Windows screen copy tool to take a screenshoot
for reference or documentation.


>
> Reflections was used for a while but the cost was too high for the
> bosses to swallow so we moved to something else which I cannot remember,
> but I used to cost $50 a seat for over 100 users
>
> I have used Securecrt for the past 10 years, it does everything I need
> as I don't require anything beyond the basics anyhow
>
> Where I work they use putty because it's free and because the majority
> of the systems are unix based
>
> Maybe on some control systems a really dumb terminal might be ok or in
> certain harsh environments where a PC running an emulator might not be
> as robust (I'm thinking cold storage for example), otherwise a terminal
> emulator is good enough
>

Right. Out on the factory floor, the old VT screens works just fine.
Easy to replace from the shelf in case of any problems. Just plug in,
power up and you're up and running again. Now, most VT(510) screens
are replaced by thin clients running an VT-emulator from a Citrix
server environment. Way more "layers" that can go wrong there.

But for my own uses emulators has always been fine.





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