[Info-vax] US Broadband

[mcleanjoh at gmail.com]

On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 7:26:38 AM UTC+11, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Dirk Munk skrev den 2015-03-02 18:33:
> > Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> >> Alan Frisbie skrev den 2015-03-02 17:58:
> >>> On 03/02/2015 08:11 AM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> >>>> On 2015-03-02 14:45:08 +0000, Jan-Erik Soderholm said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I just looked up Sweden and all but a few *very* low populated
> >>>  >> areas in the far north has 10 Mb/s or better to over 90% of
> >>>  >> households.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The governements goal is that at least 90% of all households
> >>>  >> and business will have 100 Mb/s via fiber at year 2020.
> >>>>
> >>>> In my experience, United States broadband speeds and coverage are
> >>>  > not particularly comparable to that of countries that consider
> >>>  > broadband to be a competitive advantage or to be a regional or
> >>>  > national priority...
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, tell me about it.   I live within sight of Los Angeles City Hall,
> >>> yet all I can get is 768 Kbps U-Verse from AT&T, unless I want to pay
> >>> $440/month for a T1 line.
> >>>
> >>> Alan Frisbie
> >>
> >> In our area in a smaller city (aprox 7.000 people) we have
> >> 100Mb/s fiber right into the appartment. That includes:
> >> - The 100 Mb/s (10 Mb/s "up") connection as such.
> >> - IP-TV with aprox 20 channels incl some in HD.
> >> - IP-telephone subscription (call fees not included).
> >> This costs aprox $35/month incl 10 years full replacement
> >> support on the equipment (fiber converter, router and TV
> >> set top box).
> >>
> >> /Jan-Erik.
> >>
> >
> > I have a cable connection with 200Mb/s download en 20Mb/sec upload. ere in
> > the NThere's also a kind of national fiber to the home project, it will
> > replace all of the old copper telephone lines. With a fiber connection you
> > can get up to 500Mb/s download & upload
> 
> The trunk into our local community (27 appartments, I'm the chairman
> of the board) is 1 Gbs. Anyone can order 1 Gbs and the ISP will open
> up the port in our local fiber switch (in our premises) for an extra
> fee (do not know the fee, noone has asked). I do not think anyone
> today sees any need for that. The IP-TV takes 2-5 Mbs and the rest
> is enought for "surfing". And besides, one do not download VMS
> ISO images every day... :-)
> 
> JF Mezei write the 2015-03-02 20:47:
> 
> about VDSL2...
> 
> I upgraded my office downtown from 24 Mbs ADSL (usual gave 15-16 Mbs)
> to VDSL-60 (always stays spot on 60 Mbs +/- 1 Mbs when measured).
> I was more interested in the higher up-link (from 2.0 Mbs to 12 Mbs)
> for the document services on my server.
> 
> Jan-Erik.
> 

J-E, by coincidence today, the Swedish online English newspaper The Local,
has an article "Sweden is second most 'digital' nation in EU", see
http://www.thelocal.se/20150224/sweden-is-europes-second-most-digital-nation

>From the article 

"Sweden was especially praised for making fixed broadband services
available for 99 percent of homes.
 
'This is remarkable given Sweden's geographical configuration,' noted
the report's authors in a nod to the country's sparsely populated rural north."


cheers

John


On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 7:26:38 AM UTC+11, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Dirk Munk skrev den 2015-03-02 18:33:
> > Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> >> Alan Frisbie skrev den 2015-03-02 17:58:
> >>> On 03/02/2015 08:11 AM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> >>>> On 2015-03-02 14:45:08 +0000, Jan-Erik Soderholm said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I just looked up Sweden and all but a few *very* low populated
> >>>  >> areas in the far north has 10 Mb/s or better to over 90% of
> >>>  >> households.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The governements goal is that at least 90% of all households
> >>>  >> and business will have 100 Mb/s via fiber at year 2020.
> >>>>
> >>>> In my experience, United States broadband speeds and coverage are
> >>>  > not particularly comparable to that of countries that consider
> >>>  > broadband to be a competitive advantage or to be a regional or
> >>>  > national priority...
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, tell me about it.   I live within sight of Los Angeles City Hall,
> >>> yet all I can get is 768 Kbps U-Verse from AT&T, unless I want to pay
> >>> $440/month for a T1 line.
> >>>
> >>> Alan Frisbie
> >>
> >> In our area in a smaller city (aprox 7.000 people) we have
> >> 100Mb/s fiber right into the appartment. That includes:
> >> - The 100 Mb/s (10 Mb/s "up") connection as such.
> >> - IP-TV with aprox 20 channels incl some in HD.
> >> - IP-telephone subscription (call fees not included).
> >> This costs aprox $35/month incl 10 years full replacement
> >> support on the equipment (fiber converter, router and TV
> >> set top box).
> >>
> >> /Jan-Erik.
> >>
> >
> > I have a cable connection with 200Mb/s download en 20Mb/sec upload. ere in
> > the NThere's also a kind of national fiber to the home project, it will
> > replace all of the old copper telephone lines. With a fiber connection you
> > can get up to 500Mb/s download & upload
> 
> The trunk into our local community (27 appartments, I'm the chairman
> of the board) is 1 Gbs. Anyone can order 1 Gbs and the ISP will open
> up the port in our local fiber switch (in our premises) for an extra
> fee (do not know the fee, noone has asked). I do not think anyone
> today sees any need for that. The IP-TV takes 2-5 Mbs and the rest
> is enought for "surfing". And besides, one do not download VMS
> ISO images every day... :-)
> 
> JF Mezei write the 2015-03-02 20:47:
> 
> about VDSL2...
> 
> I upgraded my office downtown from 24 Mbs ADSL (usual gave 15-16 Mbs)
> to VDSL-60 (always stays spot on 60 Mbs +/- 1 Mbs when measured).
> I was more interested in the higher up-link (from 2.0 Mbs to 12 Mbs)
> for the document services on my server.
> 
> Jan-Erik.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .