[Info-vax] portable sequential file formats (was: Re: Couple of questions on VMS -> world)
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Tue Mar 17 12:56:56 EDT 2015
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:56:10 -0700 (PDT)
mcleanjoh--- via Info-vax <info-vax at rbnsn.com> wrote:
> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 8:30:06 PM UTC+11, li... at openmailbox.org
> wrote:
> > For me I'm so fed up with Intel's neverending screwups and I don't like
> > UNIX very much. I'm a developer for my job and also in my vanishing
> > spare time for fun, so I was looking for another platform that was
> > neither UNIX, Linux, nor Windows and runs on non-Intel hardware. I
> > thought looking into other hardware platforms would be a pleasant way
> > to spend the little free time I have. I didn't know VMS was still
> > around and I didn't pay attention to it when it was more popular.
> >
> > Are you saying they get frustrated because the switches are inconsistent
> > across commands? I find UNIX sloppy and poorly thought out because there
> > are simply too many options for things. It seems half or 3/4 of the
> > bugfixes end up as new command line switches. But that's just the tip of
> > the iceberg. UNIX wasn't ever designed, it just happened. And I really
> > don't like that.
> >
> > --
>
> Unix suffers from inconsistency in a lot of areas and Linux is a whole
> lot worse.
My opinion as I said is UNIX wasn't designed. It just happened.
> One simple example is lack of consistency in each command. You typically
> find that a few alpha characters were related to what the program might
> do but the rest of the switches were just "we need another flag". And
> even the commands are inconsistent with 'tar' and 'find' having odd
> formats (and even my Linux book says so).
You are preaching to the choir.
> Some Linux documentation is okay but some is atrocious; it just depends
> on who wrote it because there seems to be no standards and no overall
> co-ordinator. Sure you can try to find things on the Internet by the
> code samples you find can be in lots of different languages and are more
> "I did it this way" than explaining what's going on.
Agreed. I don't understand how anybody can use Linux or most UNIX in
production for anything. There are a few exceptions, Solaris is
professionally documented and it works very well. But it's still UNIX so it
suffers from the same lack of naming conventions and where Sun hasn't fixed
it, the same non-design and sloppy, generic implementations that plague UNIX
generally. And they're all based on C which is the root of all evil- it's
not *if* something bad is going to happen it's just when and how often.
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