[Info-vax] portable sequential file formats (was: Re: Couple of questions on VMS -> world)

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Wed Mar 18 09:28:42 EDT 2015


On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 18:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
"johnson.eric--- via Info-vax" <info-vax at rbnsn.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 1:00:04 PM UTC-4, li... at openmailbox.org
> wrote:
> 
> > Agreed. I don't understand how anybody can use Linux or most UNIX in
> > production for anything. 
> 
> But clearly it's been done and continues to be done. At quite large
> scales too. I think of organizations such as Amazon, Twitter, Facebook,
> Google. Perhaps you are focusing on the wrong things.

Perfect! Four giant parasitic companies running on government subsidy
and corporate loopholes (possibly not Twitter) that offer no real value and
could all vanish from the face of the earth and not be missed by any
intelligent person. At all.

Amazon, plagued by outages and DDOS attacks despite all that cloudy
hardware. Twitter, there's a real mission critical deployment if there ever
was one. Hacked regularly. How many people die each second Twitter is
offline? Facebook and Google, doing what certain gubment agencies couldn't
do and they got it all voluntarily from the sheeple. Facebook hacked,
hacked, and hacked again. Google, developer of the world's least-secure OS,
Android. Android has more vulnerabilities than Windows. And they said it
could never happen! Of that list only Amazon comes close to what could be
called production and nothing bad happens when Amazon goes offline except
as far as Amazon stockholders are concerned. Everybody else just buys ebay
or Alibaba and gets better prices and service.

Despite throwing billions of dollars at hardware those companies still
can't keep it up. They're still not secure. They're still an embarassment,
they have no quality focus and no value. They're a waste of electricity!

> > But it's still UNIX so it suffers from the same lack of naming
> > conventions and where Sun hasn't fixed [...]
> 
> While annoying at times, it's really not a deal breaker. It's at most a
> temporary speed bump for some. 

It's a permanent sinkhole in UNIX that won't ever be resolved just as many
other fundamental problems in UNIX won't ever be resolved. They all stem
from lack of discipline and myopia and values like expedience and ease of
implementation over good engineering practice. And shared libraries! That's
no way to deliver product.

> > And they're all based on C which is the root of all evil- it's
> > not *if* something bad is going to happen it's just when and how often.
> 
> I think you need to separate your disgust at elements of the standard C 
> library from that of the language itself.

Well that's very interesting. Do you think people ought to learn from you
and accept your way of understanding things because of your fine character,
or technology leadership, or debating skills, etc.? Do you think you have
all the answers and that anybody who differs with you is wrong?

Perhaps you are focusing on the wrong things. Into the killfile you go!

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