[Info-vax] One possible market for VMS: secure credit card

[Kerry Main]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at info-vax.com] On Behalf Of
> Bill Gunshannon
> Sent: 24-Mar-15 8:29 AM
> To: info-vax at info-vax.com
> Subject: Re: [New Info-vax] One possible market for VMS: secure credit
> card
> 
> In article <mailman.24.1427128765.2736.info-vax_info-vax.com at info-
> vax.com>,
> 	Kerry Main <kerry.main at backtothefutureit.com> writes:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at info-vax.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Stephen Hoffman
> >> Sent: 23-Mar-15 11:09 AM
> >> To: info-vax at info-vax.com
> >> Subject: Re: [New Info-vax] One possible market for VMS: secure
> credit
> >> card
> >>=20
> >> On 2015-03-23 13:23:16 +0000, Bob Koehler said:
> >>=20
> >> > In article <memjti$o5s$1 at news.albasani.net>, Jan-Erik Soderholm
> >> > <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> Right. And then we'd have the same situation there as with any
> other
> >> OS
> >> >> used today, of course.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do not think these problems with go away simply by changing the
> >> OS...
> >> >
> >> >    Everytimte I hear this I wonder how it was then, that back when
> just
> >> > about everyone solved computer problems with "get a VAX"
> (running
> >> VMS),
> >> > and everybody knew it, we had so few of these problems.
> >>=20
> >> True.  But then that was also before the internet, and before the brief
> >> time of the open internet and open networks (the Morris worm,
> WANK),
> >> and before ubiquitous connectivity, and before the era of volumes of
> >> digital cash sloshing around that has made computers into such
> >> profitable targets.
> >>=20
> >> >    It's not as if VMS always had the small volumes that it has now.
> >>=20
> >> True.  Though what were considered large volumes back then, are no
> >> longer, too.
> >>=20
> >> The VMS advertising referenced 450,000 users
> >> (<http://www.computerworld.com/article/2580716/computer-
> >> hardware/q-a--hp-s-peter-blackmore-on-rivals--postmerger-
> >> strategy.html>),
> >> versus a billion systems (and how many users?) of what are now
> >> considered the major client platforms, plus the additional systems
> that
> >> are the back-ends for those client systems.  In this area, VMS is
> >> either a back-end system for a few of these clients and associated
> >> applications, or is a back-office system.
> >>=20
> >
> > That was an incorrect quote - the generally accepted number back
> then=20
> > was 450,000 systems not users.
> >
> > Heck, one Canadian ISP Cust has an OpenVMS cluster on its own
> today=20
> > that supports 4M+ Customers/end users.
> >
> 
> I would love to see more information (facts, not myth) on this as I
> very seriously doubt there are 4M VMS "Users" worldwide.
> 

What do you define as a user - someone who only logs in and uses DCL
or someone who is authenticated by and uses OpenVMS applications?

This Cust has a wide range of users (Cust's, CRR's, Service Techs) using a 
number of highly integrated OpenVMS applications running on an Alpha
/Integrity cluster. They also have some .Net side apps integrated using 
Attunity (great integration product btw). 

I also know of a number of very high profile lotteries and public hydro 
utilities running OpenVMS  applications core to their business here in 
Canada and around the globe as well. (I know because I was at some of 
these sites). 

It is also public knowledge that big Shanghai Stock Exchange converted 
from HP-UX/PA-RISC to OpenVMS/Integrity as their next generation 
trading platform that went live back in the 2010 timeframe. 

[there are those that suspect Shanghai stock exchange will replace NYSE 
at some point in the future as the stock center for global finance]

Regards,

Kerry Main
Back to the Future IT Inc.
 .. Learning from the past to plan the future

Kerry dot main at backtothefutureit dot com