[Info-vax] problem with LSE installation

[David Froble]

Hans Vlems wrote:
> Op maandag 18 mei 2015 11:39:50 UTC+2 schreef Phillip Helbig (undress to reply):
>> In article <mjbh0s$8ca$1 at dont-email.me>, David Froble
>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes: 
>>
>>>> A common set of sources is used to build VMS Alpha and VMS Itanium
>>>> and we will be adding x86 support to that code base. We are not
>>>> planning any Alpha releases but any nonarchitecture-specific changes
>>>> will be in both VMS Itanium and VMS x86 releases and we hope there
>>>> will be many of both.
>>> So, you have a common code base.  At some time you make changes, or add 
>>> something.  Will the code base then fork?  
>> That's against the concept of a common code base.
>>
>>> If not, then it seems your 
>>> only recourse would be to issue something, patches, new version, 
>>> whatever, for all three, and if you wished, and it fit, VAX too.
>> Forget VAX.  It's not part of the common code base.
>>
>>> Assume that the modifications are non-compatable with earlier versions, 
>>> and Alphas could not remain in a cluster without the new stuff ....
>> Let's be happy that the first release of VMS on x86 will allow an ALPHA 
>> in the same cluster.  Who cares if ALPHA development stops after 8.X and 
>> VMS 12.3 on X86 can't run with ALPHA in a cluster.
> 
> If I were a commercial user then I'd agree with that. As a hobbyist I'd hate
> it if ALpha would be dropped within a year or two. I have only one Itanium,
> after I correctly assemble the box again hopefully, and I prefer to have
> more than one system which is up to date with new development (yeah, I'm
> a hobbyist with little money and a big mouth ;-).
> 
> That said, the way I read Rob's line "We like Alpha; really, we do" is that
> Alpha plays an important if not essential part in building VMS for I64.
> If there's such a dependency then Alpha very likely will be kept at the
> same development level as I64. Whether the same will eventually hold for
> x86_64 is anyone's guess but I doubt that. By that time mainting Alpha's
> will be as expensive as mainting VAXes today (in a commercial shop).
> Just my two cents (as in hfl 0,01)
> Hans

There has been this rather unimportant question in my mind, but 
unimportant or not, inquiring minds want to know.

I think the mention by VSI people that HP could issue a new Alpha build, 
should they choose to do so, is as much answer as I'm going to get at 
this time.

I don't think the agreement gave VSI the rights to distribute new 
versions for Alpha, or VAX.  Weather they would want to do so is a 
separate issue. They are probably quite busy right now and don't need 
the distractions.  I'd agree with that.