[Info-vax] CLI editing, was: Re: VMS - Virtual Terminals - A security risk way back yonder OR was that an Old Wives Tale ?

John Reagan xyzzy1959 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 13 10:34:16 EST 2016


On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 9:55:43 AM UTC-5, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2016-02-12 21:56, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> > On 2016-02-12 19:53:13 +0000, Simon Clubley said:
> >
> >> On 2016-02-12, Hein RMS van den Heuvel <>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The other thing Windows is also infinitely better than OpenVMS is for
> >>> command line recall and editing. As much as I love OpenVMS and DCL,
> >>> the command line editing is a lame joke in DCL.
> >>
> >> If you think Windows CLI editing is better than VMS (and it is), then
> >> try bash on Linux. It leaves Windows standing in the dust.
> >
> > Linux, BSD, Unix, illumos, OS X, etc, all have far better support for
> > the command line than does OpenVMS.
> 
> To be fair, Linux, BSD, UNix, illumos, OS X, etc, would seem to all 
> actually be Unix, and what you are referring to is bash, which have a 
> better support for the command line than does OpenVMS.
> 
> Unix (by any of these names) do in fact not have better support, but 
> worse. The system functionality for reading and editing from a terminal 
> is way more primitivt that what VMS have.
> 
> It is bash (and a library called readline), which offers they very nice 
> experience.
> 
> Curious about bash, does not bash retain this functionality in the VMS port?

bash/GNV on VMS can edit across lines just like on my Linux box.  It has all the same edit modes (emacs vs vi) as does bash on Linux.



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