[Info-vax] How do I make zip, unzip etc. available to all users?

[David Froble]

Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2016-01-07 17:21:11 +0000, David Froble said:
> 
>> Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>> Ad-hoc and manual deployments tend to lack documentation and 
>>> particularly tend to lack reproducibility.
>>
>> Guess I'm deprived.  I don't have hundreds of VMS systems to 
>> administer. Doesn't mean some others are not privileged to have such.
> 
> Hundreds?  Deploying non-trivial apps to more than one box is a hassle, 
> with VMS.  More than several boxes heads toward home-grown deployment 
> tools.  With hundreds of boxes, you complain to VSI about the mess.
> 
> 

Perhaps I'm old fashioned.  I was taught that I had to work for what I wanted, 
not have it handed to me.  I learned how to set up things, how to configure 
systems, and how to make it easier to do multiple systems.

Actually, all Codis customers have systems set up in the same manner.  Sure, 
there are some differences, but what can be industrialized, has been 
industrialized.  It's just the way things are done, if you're going to do your 
job, and do it well.

When you've mentioned rolling out multiple boxes, I allow that there are things 
I'm unaware of, and you might have some good points.  But when you talk about 
"more than one box", as in 2, 3, or 12, and how hard it is, then I'm going to 
declare "not on my watch".

Then again, perhaps today people no longer want to pay me the (not so big) bucks 
for my expertise and want everything to be free and trivial.  The world is 
neither free or trivial, and such get what they pay for.