[Info-vax] disabling a CTRL/Y ast

VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG
Fri Jan 8 10:06:15 EST 2016


In article <81b88a19-35af-4ca5-83eb-3c795c01c219 at googlegroups.com>, Tom Adams <tadamsmar at gmail.com> writes:
>On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 9:42:40 AM UTC-5, VAXman- wrote:
>> In article <1467ade2-ca54-4282-adf6-685268571cbd at googlegroups.com>, Tom Adams <tadamsmar at gmail.com> writes:
>> >On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:21:27 AM UTC-5, VAXman- wrote:
>> >> In article <3a583568-e33e-446e-9805-6ea94f9ebf71 at googlegroups.com>, Tom Adams <tadamsmar at gmail.com> writes:
>> >> >On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>> >> >> On 2016-01-06 16:46:32 +0000, Tom Adams said:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > I want to turn ctrl/y into a noop in certain regions of code and turn 
>> >> >> > ctrl/y into an exit in other regions of code.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Some background: I've posted more than a few replies here in the 
>> >> >> comp.os.vms newsgroup, specifically discussing the particular 
>> >> >> application in question and its general design, and an unfortunate 
>> >> >> aggregation of the UI and the more critical code paths, and your 
>> >> >> understandable preference to avoid restructuring the application code 
>> >> >> through reworking the existing design to block ^Y from arriving within 
>> >> >> the most critical sections of the code.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > I do find that it is necessary to run lib$disable_ctrl at the beginning 
>> >> >> > of the program and lib$enable_ctrl at the end of the program to restore 
>> >> >> > the previous CLI state, but I need to run asts to do the rest.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> If you want ASTs in some parts of the code and not in others, then 
>> >> >> you're going to have to wrap those sections appropriately.   That's if 
>> >> >> you don't decide to migrate those critical code sections into another 
>> >> >> process context, or related steps.  Because beyond the potential for ^Y 
>> >> >> in these sections and the associated issues you're having with the 
>> >> >> image rundown processing in the absence of an EXIT command, other sorts 
>> >> >> of generic application failures ("bugs") or any arriving $forcex calls 
>> >> >> or such activities can potentially still leave the application in an 
>> >> >> indeterminate state.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> -- 
>> >> >> Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC
>> >> >
>> >> >Here's an example of what I am trying to do that seems to work OK.
>> >> >I guess a forced exit from a bug could leave the CTRL\Y in
>> >> >the disabled state at the CLI instead of the original state.
>> >> >
>> >> >Also, it's possible that someone could define TT to be some terminal
>> >> >other than the login terminal.  VMS leaves all the built-in process
>> >> >logicals that refer to the login terminal vulnerable to redefinition.
>> >> >It may be possible to roll your own safe (executive, no_alias) logical
>> >> >name via a call in syslogin.
>> >> >
>> >> >Also, I still need to cover the cases where this code runs in a context
>> >> >where TT is not defined.
>> >> 
>> >> 	PROGRAM MY_TERMINAL
>> >> 	IMPLICIT NONE
>> >> 
>> >> 	INCLUDE '($DSCDEF)'
>> >> 	INCLUDE '($JPIDEF)'
>> >> 	INCLUDE '(LIB$ROUTINES)'
>> >> 
>> >> 	INTEGER*4 STATUS
>> >> 
>> >> 	RECORD	/DSCDEF1/ TERMINAL
>> >> 
>> >> 	TERMINAL.DSC$W_MAXSTRLEN = 0
>> >> 	TERMINAL.DSC$B_DTYPE = DSC$K_DTYPE_T
>> >> 	TERMINAL.DSC$B_CLASS = DSC$K_CLASS_D
>> >> 	TERMINAL.DSC$A_POINTER = 0
>> >> 
>> >> 	STATUS = LIB$GETJPI(JPI$_TERMINAL,,,,TERMINAL,)
>> >> 	IF (STATUS.AND.1) THEN
>> >> 	  STATUS = LIB$PUT_OUTPUT(TERMINAL)
>> >> 	ENDIF
>> >> 
>> >> 	CALL SYS$EXIT(%VAL(STATUS))
>> >> 	END
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
>> >> 
>> >> I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
>> >
>> >There is an issue.
>> >
>> >MY TERMINAL returns a blank string when you spawn it off the CLI:
>> >
>> >SPAWN RUN MY_TERMINAL
>> 
>> No there's not.  There's not terminal associated with the spawned subprocess;
>> there's a mailbox used instead.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >But (oddly enough) the TT logical name is defined in that spawned interactive process.  The process has TT, SYS$COMMAND and all that but no login terminal returned by GETJPI. And, it 
>> 
>> >
>> >This user interface program I am trying to improve gets used in all sort of processes: interactive processes, spawned interactive processes, batch jobs, detached processes, processes spawned by detached processes.
>> >
>> >I think the best thing to do is for the program use the special processing for CTRL/Y in all interactive processes.
>> >
>> >But, I cannot use the login terminal from GETJPI in a spawned interactive process.
>> >
>> >I can think of some options:
>> >
>> >1. use TT
>> >2. use TT with a "_" added to the front
>> >3. do not provide the special processing in detached interactive processes. Maybe just disable CTRL/Y in that case.
>> >
>> >BTW, when you hit CTRL/Y in an image in the spawned interactive process, it kills the process, it does not suspend the image. It acts differently from a normal interactive process.
>> >
>> >Is there some way to tell if you are in a spawned interactive process other than checking with GETJPI for the lack of a login terminal name?
>> 
>> Do I need to write the whole program for you? :)
>
>A least the OS calls, apparently.
>
>> 
>> I'd first determine of the process IS a subprocess.  Then, find the master PID
>> of that process and pass it to the LIB$GETJPI as the second argument.  That'll
>> get you the terminal from the master/parent process.
>> 
>> 
>> 	PROGRAM MY_TERMINAL
>> 	IMPLICIT NONE
>> 
>> 	INCLUDE '($DSCDEF)'
>> 	INCLUDE '($JPIDEF)'
>> 	INCLUDE '($STSDEF)'
>> 	INCLUDE '(LIB$ROUTINES)'
>> 
>> 	INTEGER*4 STATUS, MASTER_PID
>> 	RECORD	/DSCDEF1/ TERMINAL
>> 
>> 	TERMINAL.DSC$W_MAXSTRLEN = 0
>> 	TERMINAL.DSC$B_DTYPE = DSC$K_DTYPE_T
>> 	TERMINAL.DSC$B_CLASS = DSC$K_CLASS_D
>> 	TERMINAL.DSC$A_POINTER = 0
>> 
>> 	STATUS = LIB$GETJPI(JPI$_MASTER_PID,,,MASTER_PID,,)
>> 	IF (STATUS.AND.STS$M_SUCCESS) THEN
>> 	  STATUS = LIB$GETJPI(JPI$_TT_PHYDEVNAM,MASTER_PID,,,TERMINAL,)
>> 	  IF (STATUS.AND.STS$M_SUCCESS) THEN
>> 	    STATUS = LIB$PUT_OUTPUT(TERMINAL)
>> 	  ENDIF
>> 	ENDIF
>> 
>> 	CALL SYS$EXIT(%VAL(STATUS))
>> 	END
>> 
>> -- 
>
>That one even works for:
>
>SPAWN SPAWN SPAWN SPAWN RUN MY_TERMINAL

Yup.

For shits and giggles, I added the '_' for you too so that $ASSIGN will be
able to assign a channel even if there's some strange logical definiiton in
the process that looks like the terminal's name.

	PROGRAM MY_TERMINAL
	IMPLICIT NONE

	INCLUDE '($DSCDEF)'
	INCLUDE '($JPIDEF)'
	INCLUDE '($STSDEF)'
	INCLUDE '(LIB$ROUTINES)'
	INCLUDE '(STR$ROUTINES)'

	INTEGER*4 STATUS, MASTER_PID
	RECORD	/DSCDEF1/ TERMINAL

	TERMINAL.DSC$W_MAXSTRLEN = 0
	TERMINAL.DSC$B_DTYPE = DSC$K_DTYPE_T
	TERMINAL.DSC$B_CLASS = DSC$K_CLASS_D
	TERMINAL.DSC$A_POINTER = 0

	STATUS = LIB$GETJPI(JPI$_MASTER_PID,,,MASTER_PID,,)
	IF (STATUS.AND.STS$M_SUCCESS) THEN
	  STATUS = LIB$GETJPI(JPI$_TT_PHYDEVNAM,MASTER_PID,,,TERMINAL,)
	  IF (STATUS.AND.STS$M_SUCCESS) THEN
	    STATUS = STR$PREFIX(TERMINAL,%DESCR('_'))
	    IF (STATUS.AND.STS$M_SUCCESS) THEN
	      STATUS = LIB$PUT_OUTPUT(TERMINAL)
	    ENDIF
	  ENDIF
	ENDIF

	CALL SYS$EXIT(%VAL(STATUS))
	END

This has been fun.  I haven't written much FORTRAN since my days as the chief
simulation guru on the Navy's HITS DATPG project at the NAEC (Naval Engineer-
ing Center) in Lakehurst.  The only other major FORTRAN was a project called
EGRESS for the laboratory access control at the Myers Center (the HEXAGON) at
Ft. Monmouth -- now RIF to oblivion and up for sale.

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