[Info-vax] Some questions on software for VMS 7.3 VAX (Stephen Hoffman)

[Kerry Main]

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> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at info-vax.com] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Hoffman via Info-vax
> Sent: 11-Jan-16 4:54 PM
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> Cc: Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [New Info-vax] Some questions on software for VMS 7.3
> VAX (Stephen Hoffman)
> 
> On 2016-01-11 17:40:42 +0000, Kerry Main said:
> 
> >>
> >>
> > While I agree OpenVMS needs improvements, let's not try and say that
> > integrating Windows with Linux and Solaris and Cisco server alarms is
> > easy either.
> 
> Um, if Linux or Solaris or Cisco are or are not easy — they do have
> various add-ons available, of course — then maybe being easier than
> those platforms might be an opportunity?
> 
> This is not about the current situations from other vendors, nor about
> the past.   The current situation with other vendors is already at
> least a year or two in the past, pragmatically.
> 
> This is about operating systems going forward, and about problems folks
> are having right now, and about what can be done — and what other
> vendors may or will be doing.
> 
> Other platforms which you keep telling me are problematic.
> 
> But then, these problematic platforms are less problematic than
> OpenVMS, too.
> 

[snip..]

No one is saying that OpenVMS does not need improvements. To be fair,
VSI has provided a fairly good roadmap of some major things they plan to 
address in the next 24 months. However, Rome was not built in a day.

What I am saying is that many of the "big" issues you keep pointing out 
that OpenVMS has are issues with many of the other platforms as well. 

> Also, get off of Windows for a while, and learn where there might be 
> different approaches and opportunities.    OpenVMS is not competitive 
> with Windows and Linux, and will have to coexist with them.   And 
> OpenVMS needs to be substantially easier to deal with than it is now, 
> and in comparison to the other platforms.

OpenVMS's future server competition absolutely is going to be Linux and 
Windows on X86-64 server platforms as the Solaris, AIX, HP-UX folks are 
in a race to the bottom, so yes there needs to be lots of improvements
and OpenVMS transformations.

Again, no one is saying this is not the case. The choir already knows this.

:-)

Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com