[Info-vax] OSes

Bill Cunningham nospam at nspam.invalid
Wed Jan 13 17:01:54 EST 2016


"Stephen Hoffman" <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote in message 
news:n76gt6$kgs$1 at dont-email.me...

> For most folks, the simplest DEC system is probably the VAXmate or 
> equivalent - one of the older DEC x86 boxes running Microsoft Windows or 
> Linux, or whatever you're familiar with.

    Definately *nixs. unix or linux. But I like console mode too.

> X Windows - which is what DECwindows is built on, and is compatible with - 
> is available on ULTRIX VAX and OpenVMS VAX, OpenVMS Alpha and OpenVMS I64.
>
> Most Unix, Linux, BSD and OS X systems have or can have X Windows, though 
> not with the DECwindows-specific bits.
>
> OpenVMS Alpha and other Alpha operating systems can boot via one of the 
> available (free) Alpha emulators.   Moving to Alpha gets you 64-bit, and 
> far more recent software.
>
> Most of the PDP-11 operating systems including RSX-11M, RSX-11M+, RSX-11D, 
> RSX-11S, RSTS, RT-11 and such do not have a network-capable graphic 
> interface akin to X Windows.   Most applications there were character 
> cell.
>
> Then there's that PDP-11 is 16-bit, and DECwindows (X Windows) barely fit 
> on the lower-end and some mid-range  32-bit VAX boxes.  More than a little 
> hand-work was needed to get it to run adequately on VAX.
>
> The simh emulator does not emulate a graphics controller, meaning that you 
> will be displaying X Windows remotely on a Microsoft Windows, OS X, Linux, 
> BSD, illumos or other such box; on some other computer, and particularly 
> one with an X Windows server configured.
>
> VMS does have an older windowing system VWS, but that's a non-starter 
> without local graphics, and specifically a graphics controller supported 
> by VWS.

    So then using simh you can get online through the MAC address interface 
but simh can't handle windows. Ok right. So there is a way though to get 
windows with openvms? I am using simh and openvms on a linux.

Bill





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