[Info-vax] OSes

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2016-01-17 19:19:29 +0000, Bill Cunningham said:

> "Stephen Hoffman" <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:n78ap5$39a$1 at dont-email.me...
>> On 2016-01-13 22:01:54 +0000, Bill Cunningham said:
>> 
>>> So then using simh you can get online through the MAC address interface 
>>> but simh can't handle windows.
>> 
>> That sentence is gibberish.   That reads rather like something from a 
>> Markov chain text-generating bot.   Are you a bot, Bill?
> 
>     I hope not. I am still not getting how to setup simh to allow X.

That's because you don't set up simh to allow X.   You set up OpenVMS 
on the box, and you set up an X server to allow incoming connections on 
whatever box you're using locally.   ssh then provides the connection 
between the X client — the X application, in this case — running on 
OpenVMS, and the local X server running the X display on your local 
system.   Which X server are you using locally, Bill?   If your earlier 
comments about using an unsupported version of Windows are what you're 
using, then xming — that was discussed in the link above, but there are 
other X11 servers for Windows — or using the Linux X server would be 
typical.   You can test that ssh -X or ssh -Y connection out entirely 
locally too, by getting your Linux box to display via X via ssh to your 
preferred Windows box.   With that, you'll at least know the basics are 
working, without working on a less-familiar platform over a remote 
network link.

> Would it involve a set console command?

Nope.

> As you have said simh doesn't do windows.

simh doesn't support a graphics controller.  It's OpenVMS that does X.  
 OpenVMS can do remote X.

> X or decwindows that is.

Same thing, for the purposes of your question.

> Others are appearing to say ssh can't be used here.

Odd.  Works just fine for most folks.   What went wrong when you tried 
it?   Any error messages?

> I was understanding it could.

Which ssh client and which X server are you using?

>  I'm rather confused here now.

I don't believe that, Bill.   Your questions here are quite astute.

> But then again I'm sarting with the users manual from a previous post 
> you said to read.

None of which covers this topic, unfortunately.   The posting I linked 
earlier would, but that's if you connected from your Linux system, or 
from PuTTY or some other ssh add-on from your Windows system, assuming 
you have an X server installed on Windows XP or whatever version of 
Windows you're using.   Probably want to upgrade that Window box to 
something that's supported and with patches, too.

> Maybe I should check elsewhere as you say infra.

Since you're a proponent of using the command line, how about using the 
command line for a while on OpenVMS, until you become more familiar 
with how OpenVMS and DCL works.   For command line management and 
operations — which is largely how OpenVMS is managed and operated — 
there's usually little or no advantage to remote X displays over using 
ssh directly — without using X forwarding — and a whole lot of added 
overhead.


BTW: Please have a look at the following web page, if you're not 
already familiar with it:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/bill_cunningham.html

I don't know if that posting is real, or is utterly specious, or maybe 
whether somebody is trolling you.

Do you have any comments on what's posted there?

Thanks!



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