[Info-vax] Some questions on software for VMS 7.3 VAX

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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:56:54 -0500
David Froble via Info-vax <info-vax at rbnsn.com> wrote:

> lists at openmailbox.org wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:36:10 +0100
> > hb via Info-vax <info-vax at rbnsn.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 01/21/2016 04:58 PM, lists at openmailbox.org wrote:
> >>
> >>> %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image BLD_ROOT:[LOCAL.BIN]EMACS-21_2
> >>> -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DUA0:[REDACTED.][LOCAL.BIN]EMACS-21_2.EXE;
> >>> -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found
> >>> -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
> >> I apologize, my fault. I should have checked GNU_STARTUP.COM for
> >> BLD_ROOT and what it is set to.
> >>
> >>> I guess one thing at a time. What should I do now? Thanks a lot for
> >>> helping with this. Sorry it took me awhile to get to this. Usually
> >>> whenever I have something interesting to try on my home systems I get
> >>> to work overtime that day. I will never know how they know...
> >>>
> >> (Re)-Define BLD_ROOT, the rooted logical. Assumed your current
> >> directory when restoring the saveset was DUA1:[USER] then
> >>
> >> $ define BLD_ROOT /trans=(conc,term) DUA1:[USER.]
> >>
> >> It seems, when BLD_ROOT is defined before GNU_STARTUP runs, the command
> >> procedure will not change it.
> >>
> >> Or change GNU_STARTUP.COM. It seems in line 278 BLD_ROOT is defined.
> > 
> > What I did was to copy the gnu_startup.com to my own version and modify
> > that to try a few things. I did global changes on your filespec disk and
> > user directory to mine and then I changed [LOCAL. to [EMACS. to match my
> > setup after following your instructions about how to expand the backup
> > saveset to my desired directory. Thanks for your clear emails, they
> > really help. This gets me past having to set BLD_ROOT each time.
> > 
> > This got me further and Emacs did start (well, it started to start). But
> > then I got additional messages that various files couldn't be found.
> > They were still using the LOCAL directory. Apparently this is baked-in
> > fairly deeply. I don't know if it's just scripts that could be
> > tracked-down or whether it's also in code.
> > 
> > I guess I could keep trying to track down the scripts and rename them
> > or I could just live with the local directory name. The former seems
> > like the better solution since the directories are nested to max depth
> > for VMS as I understand it, which would mean I could never have a
> > directory named local wherever I decide to root this whole thing if I
> > ever get it working and can't hide it in a higher-level directory.
> > 
> > Falling back to using the baked-in directory name it gets further
> > 
> > [Spawning a new Kept EMACS]
> > 
> > but I get a message for various emulated terminals that they aren't
> > supported. For example coming in through Putty's telnet I get:
> > 
> > emacs: Terminal type vt102-132 is not defined.
> > If that is not the actual type of terminal you have,
> > use the Bourne shell command `TERM=... export TERM' (C-shell:
> > `setenv TERM ...') to specify the correct type. It may be necessary
> > to do `unset TERMCAP' (C-Shell: `unsetenv TERMCAP') as well.
> > 
> > Using xterm and telnet I get a similar message:
> > 
> > emacs: Terminal type vt100-132 is not defined.
> > 
> > So I used the default xterm size and it also failed similarly:
> > 
> > emacs: Terminal type vt400-80 is not defined.
> > 
> > Do you know how to resolve the terminal issue? Looks like it's fairly
> > close but there would still be the issue of how to make it globally
> > available since the directory structure and names are baked-in...
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for the help.
> > 
> 
> Well, you could just use EDT,
> 
> $ EDT :== EDIT/EDT
> 
> and then have your login do a
> 
> $ SET TERM/INQ
> 
> and it just works ....
> 
> or, you can keep smashing your finger with the hammer ...

What's smashing your finger with a hammer and poking your eye with a sharp
stick is trying to use EDT without a DEC keyboard.

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