[Info-vax] Where to locate software

Stephen Hoffman seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid
Sat Jun 11 13:44:21 EDT 2016


On 2016-06-11 01:59:44 +0000, Kerry Main said:

> Re: pricing- agree that current pricing strategies is an issue that 
> needs to  be addressed at some future point.

Everything you're pointing to here — all of it — is an added cost, an 
added expense, and requires added and often platform-unique skills.

Yes, those are needed for any platform — to a degree — the difference 
being that users are going to be less interested in new deployments and 
new applications on OpenVMS in the absence of those skills.

OpenVMS must get simpler.   OpenVMS must become easier to use, easier 
to manage, easier to deploy, easier to integrate, and it must become 
more secure and more affordable and easier to develop.

Which gets back to details like there being NO DOCUMENTATION ON HOW TO 
BUILD AND DEPLOY SOFTWARE ON THE PLATFORM.   Sure, keep avoiding that 
slight detail.   What kicked off this thread.

Want OpenVMS to succeed?  First and foremost, VSI has to make enough 
revenue, and — for the foreseeable future — that's only coming from the 
installed base.

If OpenVMS is to continue past the end of the installed base and the 
retirement of various of the existing applications, then new 
deployments and new applications are a requirement.   What are factors 
involved with maintaining and growing the base?  Sure, purchase costs 
are a factor.   But as more than a few folks around here are fond of 
referencing, TCO is (hopefully) involved in the discussions.    Well, 
guess what?    What we are discussing here is TCO, and where OpenVMS 
can get better, and where it must get better.   Having documentation 
and tools for developers?   For sustainable, secure, upgradable and 
"container-able" / "app stackable" and "app removable" and 
rolling-upgradable applications?   About how fast new TLS deployments 
can happen, or fixes for some other security bug in OpenVMS or an LP?   
(Because those aren't going to happen any less often, or need to happen 
any more slowly.  But I digress.)    All part of TCO.











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