[Info-vax] Where to locate software

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2016-06-12 17:31:52 +0000, Kerry Main said:

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>> On 2016-06-12 14:09:08 +0000, Kerry Main said:
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>>>> lawrencedo99--- via Info-vax
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>>>> Certainly, centralized VCSes are seen as obsolete these days.
>>> 
>>> "Certainly"???
>>> 
>>> While this statement may bring the politicaly correct hype generators 
>>> of  the very distributed open source world down on me, this last 
>>> statement  is a pile of crap.
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>> Have you used a DVCS, Kerry?
> 
> No.

So something you've never used and have no experience with is a "pile of crap"?

> I do not pretend to be a developer, but I do know best practices and 
> whatmakes sense from a big IT picture perspective.

Maybe do some development work, and get your operations scripts under 
source control and deployment control, and see what works?  And what 
doesn't work?  And what's more work?

> In parallel with this, I rely on the experience of others (like links I 
> posted)to further shape my opinions.

How about the bozo that maintained the OpenVMS development source code 
control system, and that finds that approach woefully inadequate in 
comparison to more modern DVCS tools?

Particularly if you're working remotely and with a development team 
actively making changes, a DVCS gets rid of more than a little of the 
drudge work of coordinating the source code pool.   Subversion (SVN) 
and DECset CMS and such are certainly good VCS tools, but they're a 
slog to use when you're doing parallel development work and 
particularly when you're working — as many projects do — off to the 
side and away from centralized build servers and mechanisms, or when 
you're trying to incorporate changes from others that are underway in 
parallel.

Maybe go try some of these tools?   Seriously.


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