[Info-vax] VMS Features I Wish Linux Had

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In article <njrla6$ikd$1 at Iltempo.Update.UU.SE>, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
>On 2016-06-15 14:58, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>> On 2016-06-15 11:57:06 +0000,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG said:
>>
>>> THere IS line editing in the terminal driver but it's limited.
>>> Extending that to 'vi' and 'emacs' capabilities is NOT appropriate in
>>> the terminal driver.  Put it where it belongs!
>>
>> What most folks would want is some flexibility around editing command
>> input, allowing vim or emacs or (since this is OpenVMS) EDT-compatible
>> cursor control.
>
>Right.
>
>> The cursor handling is inherently going to be part of the driver (and
>> also sensitive to the character encoding), whether the command history
>> or recall buffer or the rest is part of the driver or is implemented
>> elsewhere is an implementation detail.  If OpenVMS ever went onto Mach
>> (past that prototype from many years ago), this handling could be in a
>> process somewhere, for instance, and for all anybody using it cared.
>
>Well, one can argue that it isn't inherently a part of the driver. Unix 
>is a fine example of it not being so...
>But I agree that much in here is implementation details. I essentially 
>just think that it should always be available, no matter what program or 
>environment I happen to be in, with the exception of programs that 
>actually actively turn this off (such as full screen editors for example).
>The most natural place for it to exist, in some way, is at least partly 
>in the terminal driver, as that is the only common component.
>
>> Akin to the lack of FUSE support within the OpenVMS I/O and file system
>> implementation on OpenVMS, there's also no input character handling
>> layer on OpenVMS.
>
>There is no input character handling layer in VMS? Interesting. Such a 

What do you want in input character handling?


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