[Info-vax] Alpha V8.4-2 distribution

[David Froble]

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Den 2016-06-20 kl. 18:17, skrev David Froble:
>> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2016-06-20 kl. 04:39, skrev David Froble:
>>>> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>>> Den 2016-06-19 kl. 05:51, skrev David Froble:
>>>>>> It's Saturday night, or I'd ask VSI.  So it's your lucky day to
>>>>>> consider my
>>>>>> question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got the Alpha 8.4-2 evaluation kit.  Unzipped it on my Alpha, got 
>>>>>> an iso
>>>>>> image, which I was able to mount using LD.  The kit will work as an
>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>> to V8.3, or later, but will not (according to the release notes)
>>>>>> install on
>>>>>> an empty disk. No problem, made an image copy of my 8.3 system disk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, it's been a LONGGGG time since I did any installations /
>>>>>> upgrades, and
>>>>>> I'm not sure what can be done.  What I remember is you boot off the
>>>>>> distribution media and use the menu to install or upgrade.  Can't 
>>>>>> boot
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> an LD container, since it needs VMS up before LD works.  Chicken 
>>>>>> and egg
>>>>>> issues ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I think I need to do is backup /image the LD container onto a 
>>>>>> spare
>>>>>> disk. Can't use the optical drive.  The local crumudgen got a good 
>>>>>> laugh
>>>>>> when I told him I was trying to read a DVD and finally realized 
>>>>>> the Alpha
>>>>>> had a CD drive. Gonna attempt to fix that next week.  Don't think the
>>>>>> distribution will fit on a CD.
>>>>>
>>>>> The original download did not fit on a CD since there was a large file
>>>>> stored in the ISO as two copies by mistake. I took that away and 
>>>>> re-built
>>>>> the ISO and my ISO did then fit on a CD.
>>>>>
>>>>> VSI also release an updated ISO shortly after this error was reported,
>>>>> and it is now "589.5 MB" according to the download page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you still have the origanal ISO? That was around 1 GB, I think...
>>>>> If so, just fetch the latest copy from VSI.
>>>>
>>>> I just got this from VSI on Friday.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK. Then I do not understand your problem getting in onto a CD.
>>> Or was that before friday using an older (the original) download?
>>
>> Went to VSISOFTWARE.COM/ALPHA, got what was available there.
>>
>>> So the CD issue is solved?
>>
>> Working on it, asked David Turner for DVD drives ....
> 
> I still do not understand...
> Why do you need a DVD drive?

It's not NEED so much as WANT.  I want a DVD drive so I don't have any more 
problems.  Got more DVDs with layered products.  And, a DVD drive should still 
read CDs.

Now the question is which commodity DVD drives will work with VMS.  I'm guessing 
there is still the 512 byte sector issues.  Anybody got any suggestions?

> The *current* kit from VSI should fit on a *CD*, not?
> 
> The first kit did not.
> 
> Or am I totaly missing something here? :-)
> 
> Jan-Erik.