[Info-vax] VSI and Process Software announcement

[IanD]

On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 10:45:05 AM UTC+10, Kerry Main wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf
> > Of David Froble via Info-vax
> > Sent: 29-Sep-16 5:31 PM
> > To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> > Cc: David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Info-vax] VSI and Process Software announcement
> > 
> > Dirk Munk wrote:
> > > Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> > >> On 9/29/16 9:10 AM, Bob Koehler wrote:
> > >>> In article <CVVGz.628530$uE7.483360 at fx14.ams1>, Dirk
> > Munk
> > >>> <munk at home.nl> writes:
> > >>>
> > >>>> What he meant was i.m.o. is that if so many people buy the
> > kind of
> > >>>> BS that Trump is selling, that a man like Hitler could
> also be
> > >>>> elected.
> > >>>
> > >>>     The one relavent difference being that Hitler didn't
> like
> > Jews, but
> > >>>     Trump doesn't like Muslims.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Jews weren't trying to take over the world and impose
> > Halakha on
> > >> everyone.  They also didn't go around blowing up innocent
> > bystanders.
> > >>
> > >> bill
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > That is only a small minority. And in case you haven't
> noticed,
> > > Muslims are killing far more fellow Muslims then non-Muslims.
> > >
> > > Many Muslims hate the extremists.
> > 
> > You probably aren't going to like this, maybe stop reading now.
> > 
> > At this time, it seems that most of the problems originate in
> the
> > muslim world.
> >   So, Ok, muslims don't like the extremists, that's fine, but
> it's
> > their house to clean up, and they don't seem to be doing a good
> > job of it.  Now, if they don't clean up their own house, then
> > sooner or later, someone else is going to take on the task, and
> > just how are they going to tell the difference between "good"
> > and "bad"?  I suggest that things may have gone too far, and
> they
> > won't care, they'll just send them all to Allah and let him
> sort
> > them out.
> > 
> > Note, I'm not advocating this, but as an analyst, I can see
> things
> > getting to that point.
> >
> 
> The above is about as true as stating "Christians" are
> responsible for all the crazies and bad things the KKK has done. 
> 
> Let's face it - every religion has its extremists. 
> 
> For the extremists, there is usually power and/or money and/or
> greed and/or racial prejudice fueling the rhetoric.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kerry Main
> Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com

Not specifically replying to you Kerry, but this line fitted the best with what I will add :-)

There's a lot wrong with the world, that is true, from the financial system and how money is created to how the political process has been captured by big business to the breakdown of communities to the mind programming by media to...

Since this topic has sort of strayed into religion, I'll add my 2c worth

I don't have an issue with religion but I do have an issue with the politicizing of religion

When religion is practiced by individuals and held as a cherished belief and a way of life, that's fine but what we are seeing now is religion becoming political and wanting to use the political process to asserts it's beliefs and therefore control upon others, whether they agree or not

I don't mind if you want to tell me about how your faith has helped you become a better person, I'll happily listen because that's a great thing to hear, how your life has become enriched and you have become a more embracing person of others etc (I'm hoping your religion guides you towards such endeavors). But if you want to gain political power and then ram your beliefs on me, not through a personal demonstration of your changed life but through a body called government or education system or office, then I have a real issue. It is no longer a personal act of faith driven by a personal testimony, it now become an act of force which leads to dogma and eventually segregation and then alienation and eventually extermination (rinse and repeat throughout history)