[Info-vax] Updated HPE/VSI OpenVMS V8.4-2L1 Marketing Brochures

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2016-10-01 17:24:53 +0000, Kerry Main said:

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>> On 2016-10-01 15:21:41 +0000, Kerry Main said:
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>>> To my earlier points - RH Linux is not free for med-large orgs.
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>> Centos.
> 
> In all my DC migration projects, I can say that the number of Centos 
> installs were some fraction less than 1%. As part of the DC Migration 
> target site standardization efforts, OS platforms like Centos were 
> under pressure to migrate to the typical company Linux std (RH).

I'd previously commented that free entry-level systems that can grow 
into supported systems.  You'd countered with the assumption I was 
referring to RHEL, and that RHEL is not free for end-users.   Which is 
true.  Centos is one of the ways this is done.   Centos is an 
entry-level into the RHEL environment.   It's intended to be compatible 
with RHEL.   And Centos is free.

More recently, the Centos distro is also being directly supported by 
RedHat, too.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS

Centos is how folks can get going with server projects and new 
applications.   Either with Centos or one of the other free distros, on 
local hardware or on hosted services, or both.     By not spending a 
lot on the servers and the pilots and the low-end projects, at least 
until the services and applications become more established and more 
critical.

If it's in a data cebter and folks from HPE were involved in a DC 
migration, then folks probably have the budget for RHEL where they need 
it, and either don't use Centos, or they might just need the Centos 
boxes or images or containers moved — because those systems were not 
yet considered business-critical functions.    Entry-level projects 
prototypes and "shadow IT" projects tend not to be visible particularly 
widely, either.   But they're one of the places where new customers and 
new deployments come from.

Again, there are entry-level options for Unix and Linux servers for 
end-users, and such options are free for the software and with the 
hardware either scrounged or hosted or cheap to buy, and there is a 
path to configurations with vendor support.   There is not a free 
entry-level for OpenVMS end-users.   With OpenVMS, a new organization 
or a group seeking to start or to run a small project has to start out 
with Itanium hardware and commercial license purchases.

This is not the production servers and critical applications of large 
and enterprise businesses.   This is where future enterprise 
applications and businesses and future business-critical applications 
come from.   This is part of the genesis where those "blue ocean" 
bunches get their start.   Not by (initially) spending lots of money on 
RHEL or OpenVMS licenses and support.   That's projects quite often 
(initially) involving hardware or hosting and software that costs less 
than an OpenVMS two-core license, in practical terms.





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