[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)
Michael Moroney
moroney at world.std.spaamtrap.com
Mon Oct 3 01:45:19 EDT 2016
David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>Dirk Munk wrote:
>> The DEC/HP way of DECnet over IP is not only offering DECnet over IP,
>> but also OSI over IP (you can look at DECnet as just another OSI
>> application). It is covered by three RFC's, RFC1006, RFC1859, and
>> RFC2126, the latter is for IPv6.
>>
>> Both versions of DECnet over IP are incompatible.
>>
>> Now my simple question is, what should VSI offer, two incompatible
>> versions of DECnet over IP?
>If you look up thread at Michael Moroney's post, you'll see the reality. He got
>DECnet built, but that's all the time VSI is going to put into DECnet.
>What you see today is all that you're ever going to see, with the understanding
>of "never say never". Your question(s) are already answered. Not that you're
>going to like the answer(s).
Without looking into it, I would assume OSI over IP is just another user
of IP and it "should work" with Multinet/the VSI IP. But perhaps the
DECnet V people conspired with the DEC TCPIP people to use an undocumented
interface. But we should already know the answer. Does DECnet-Plus over
IP work at all with the current Multinet implementation?
The Multinet DECnet IV over IP is a Multinet-specific creation. They must
have written a driver that creates a pseudodevice that looks (to DECnet)
like a network interface but really interfaces with Multinet's IP stuff.
As to DECnet-Plus, I doubt I will be tasked with any further work there,
other than, perhaps, getting it working on x86 once x86 VMS exists, and
if a demand is seen for it. But a customer waving money and shouting "We
want DECnet!" could change that -- if such a customer even exists.
I am a little surprised at the interest in DECnet here.
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