[Info-vax] satellite one hour ahead

[David Froble]

Hans Bachner wrote:
> Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) schrieb am 26.10.2016 um 08:22:
>> [snip]
>>
>> I have a cluster with three bootservers, each with its own system disk,
>> and a satellite which boots off of one of the disks.  All machines have
>> a graphics monitor and a VT as the serial console.  I upgraded one of
>> the bootservers to 8.4 and DECwindows stopped working in that the CDE
>> login doesn't come up.  It gets as far as the grey screen then stops.
>> Thus, there is apparently some problem with my 8.4 (which is the
>> hobbyist image).  Thus, I don't want to upgrade to 8.4 for fear of
>> losing DECwindows/CDE.
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> I've done upgrades several times, and the upgrade to 8.4 was
>> straightforward.  Then DECwindows/CDE stopped working.  So, it's pretty
>> clear that there is a problem there somewhere.  Have I found it?  Not
>> yet.  It might be that the problem doesn't always occur.  In particular,
>> it might not occur after a fresh install.
>> [snip]
> 
> Probably not.
> 
> I just recently did a fresh install of V8.4 on an AlphaStation DS15 
> without applying any patches because my only goal was to upgrade to 
> VSI's Alpha evaluation kit. CDE worked just fine out of the box.
> 
> Hans.

So, one could speculate that Phillip's problem could be some "junk" from 
constantly upgrading VMS from some ancient version, rather than a fresh install 
periodically.  That was another recent topic, doing a fresh install periodically 
to avoid just such "junk".

Because of this problem, Phillip still has a V7.3-2 system, which he won't give 
up because of the DECwindows problem.

And now Phillip has a time problem, perhaps because of some old "junk".

In aviation there is a well accepted concept, that most accidents are caused by 
a "chain" of errors, and if any one of the errors had been avoided, the accident 
would not have happened.  Something to be learned from that.

Operating Systems get new versions for several reasons, including the old 
version being inadequate, buggy, and such.  Continuing to use old versions then 
causes one to remain inadequate and buggy, and such.

No way is anyone going to explore problems in old versions, when the problem 
doesn't manifest itself in the newest version.

VSI?  has better things to do ...

HP?  BA HA HA HA HA HA ....