[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

Dirk Munk munk at home.nl
Mon Sep 19 14:25:08 EDT 2016


Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Dirk Munk  <munk at home.nl> wrote:
>> Scott Dorsey writes:
>>>
>>> Sheesh, just give me a standardized shared filesystem over IP, that I can
>>> address from the command line.   With good performance.  I don't even care
>>> what kind it is as long as it's standard and widely-compatible.
>>
>> How do you want to achieve that? VMS has file versions, Unix and Windows
>> don't. Do you want to abandon VMS file versions, or should Unix, Linux
>> and Windows learn hows to use file versions?
>
> The way Multinet did it (making the file version part of the filename)
> works pretty well.
>
>> For Unix and Windows a file starts at point A and ends at point B, and
>> in between are bytes. If these files have record separators, then it
>> will be a <cr> for the one, and a <lf> for the other. VMS knows these
>> files as stream files, or files with an undefined contents. Normal VMS
>> files are structured, a concept completely unknown to Unix and Windows.
>> Cobol for instance needs structured files, so a Cobol compiler on Unix
>> or Windows has to define its own structured files, but Unix and Windows
>> will be completely unaware of that.
>
> Take a look at how Multinet does that too.  These were solved problems decades
> ago.
> --scott
>
>
*IF* you would like to set up such a file system, it should be something 
like Stornext, a distributed file system.



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