[Info-vax] [OT] Portable operating systems, was: Re: PowerX Roadmap -
Johnny Billquist
bqt at softjar.se
Wed Sep 21 07:10:34 EDT 2016
On 2016-09-20 19:29, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 09/20/16 04:48, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On 2016-09-19 21:51, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> On 09/19/16 08:34, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>
>>>> Intel did design the 4-mode setup, they just made an error in the
>>>> design. Instead of correcting the design, they crippled it even more.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if AMD has the same problem.
>>>
>>> An interesting point you just brought up. AMD right now isn't exactly
>>> getting rich these days selling their current processors. Assuming one
>>> can, approach AMD with this particular question and see what is there.
>>> If AMD did it correctly, this may give AMD some hope of increasing sales
>>> in this particular arena.
>>
>> Nope. Totally pointless. People (comapnies) in general will not write
>> any code or OS that would only work specifically on AMD processors. If
>> AMD haven't already done the same as Intel, they will. Anything else
>> just don't make sense.
>>
>> And you really do not need 4 modes. I have said that for years around
>> here. Seems like VSI understood, but a lot of people still seem to want
>> to hang on to this like a religion.
>>
>
> Not totally true on the modes. Why did Data Generals machines have 8
> modes?
> I know they went out of business, but why 8?
Why? Because they thought there was some advantage to that, I would
assume. They also had two stacks, and seven registers related to those
two stacks (no, I am not talking about different stacks in different modes).
Also, DG used the PC as the source to decided which mode you were
executing in.
I can't explain their reasons for their designs. But I remember back in
the 80s when I was looking at it that I just thought it utter madness. I
never liked their hardware.
Johnny
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