[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

Kerry Main kemain.nospam at gmail.com
Thu Sep 29 20:58:11 EDT 2016


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf
> Of Dirk Munk via Info-vax
> Sent: 29-Sep-16 4:34 PM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Cc: Dirk Munk <munk at home.nl>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the
> chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)
> 
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
> > On 2016-09-28 23:09, Rob Brown wrote:
> >> On 2016-09-19, Dirk Munk <munk at home.nl> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> DECnet Phase IV and DECnet Phase V are two completely
> different
> >>> products.
> >>
> >> But phase V can communicate with Phase IV nodes.  RSX
> never got Phase V.
> >> What about DEC's other OSes?
> >
> > Only VMS ever got Phase V. All other DEC OSes stayed at IV.
> 
> Incorrect, Tru64 also had Phase V.
> 
> >
> >> I would like Phase V to retain the ability to talk to Phase
IV.
> >
> > I would assume/hope that this was not removed, if Phase V
> were worked
> > on. But I would seriously question the sanity of anyone at
VSI
> who
> > suggested they should put any work into DECnet.
> > At most, it could make sense to provide the ability that
Multinet
> > already have, of using TCP/IP as a transport for DECnet
circuits,
> > which can be done for Phase IV. I suspect that could actually
be
> of
> > some use at a few places. And it has already been
> implemented.
> > But anything beyond that, just would not make sense.
> >
> >     Johnny
> >
> The problem with the Multinet solution is that it is
non-standard
> (not covered by IP RFC's), and that it does not cover OSI
> applications.
>

I think you will be surprised just how IP standards based
Multinet really is:

http://bit.ly/2dDKrKK - SPD

http://bit.ly/2df0j6G - Data Sheet

Multinet Admin Guide (note focus on RFC throughout doc)
http://www.process.com/docs/multinet5_5/admin_ref.pdf 

MultiNet for OpenVMS Messages, Logicals, and DECnet Applications
http://www.process.com/docs/multinet5_5/messages.pdf 


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com










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