[Info-vax] The Kotlin language, something for VMS as well?
Jan-Erik Soderholm
jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Thu Jul 13 06:03:23 EDT 2017
Den 2017-07-13 kl. 11:25, skrev Dirk Munk:
> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> Den 2017-07-13 kl. 10:37, skrev Dirk Munk:
>>
>>>
>>> ...If I'm going to use an application written in Python now, then it
>>> will come with all the clutter of a Python runtime system in its
>>> directories.
>>
>> No. Just the Specific .PY file(s) for that application.
>> There is no reason to copy the runtime around.
>>
>> Apart from the obvious Python2-only vs. Python3-only issues.
>>
>> One strength of Python is that is is *not* compiled. It it easy
>> and quick to make quick fixes that works a bit like extensions
>> to DCL without the full compile/link loop.
>>
>>> With Jython you would only have the application in .jar files in its
>>> directories,...
>>
>> Just like the .PY or .PYC files.
>>
>>> perhaps a kind of Jython library as well, and run the whole thing with
>>> the standard JVM that you already have installed.
>>
>> Or the standard Python runtime that you already have installed.
>>
>
> Unfortunately, that is just the theory.
>
> In practice every application you download from somewhere, and that uses
> Python, will come with its own Python distribution. I've never seen an
> application that asks me to install a Python kit.
Have you seen *ANY* application lately (Python or not) that you download
from "somewhere" that is targeting OpenVMS ?? :-)
Applications for OpenVMS will, for the foreseeable future, be in-house
built, not "downloaded from somewhere".
What could be thought of, is specific Python modules (extensions), and
they almost always expect an already installed Python environment.
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