[Info-vax] SAMBA and Ransomeware

Scott Dorsey kludge at panix.com
Sun Jul 16 18:15:35 EDT 2017


=?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>On 7/16/2017 3:26 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> Stephen Hoffman  <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
>>> Ned Pile of the Microsoft SMB team has repeatedly stated that running
>>> SMB 1 is very bad, and needs to stop.  Here's a longer write-up on that
>>> topic:
>>>
>>> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/filecab/2016/09/16/stop-using-smb1/
>>>
>>> Samba 3.6 and later support SMB 2 (from 2011) and Samba 4.3 added SMB
>>> 3.1.1 (2015).   The OpenVMS CIFS port is based on 3.0.28a.   So...
>>> there's no way around using SMB 1 with the current Samba port.
>> 
>> This is true and unfortunate.
>> 
>> Some of the issue here is that the SMB protocol really wasn't designed for
>> security, and Microsoft over the years has tacked more and more stuff on it
>> to improve security and availability.  We can expect that they will continue
>> to do this in the future.
>> 
>> This means that SMB is a moving target, and any attempt at supporting SMB
>> is going to require constant attention and a lot of updating.  There is no
>> way around that I fear.
>
>Like web browsers, web servers, browser plugins, JavaScript engines,
>SSL libraries, application servers, CMS'es, mail servers and
>a ton of other stuff.

Like some of that stuff, yeah.  But most of that stuff I don't want on a
server in the first place.  And the stuff I do want on a server, I want to
fight to make as stable as possible.  But an SMB server inherently cannot
be.  

The web browser is an excellent analogy, though...  and it's a reason why 
I don't want to see a serious web browser on VMS.  It takes up far too much
support effort for the gain it provides.
--scott
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