[Info-vax] First GNULIB test results on VMS.

[John E. Malmberg]

On 7/20/2017 4:21 AM, IanD wrote:
> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 1:12:50 PM UTC+10, John E. Malmberg wrote:
>> Most GNU code uses GNULIB to compensate for differences in the C library.
>>
>> I recently got GNULIB to build on VMS and run the tests.
>>
> 
> <snip>
> 
> As always, what necessary and useful grass roots work you do
> 
> I have a number of questions, some will be viewed as gruff I'm sure, but meh!
> 
> 1. Is all this great work you are doing being fed back into VSI?

Bugs that are discovered are being fed to VSI and HPE.  As you can see, 
VSI employees are monitoring the newsgroup.

Many bugs seem to only show up in my configuration, using search lists 
for default build/test directory.  NFS served source directory, etc.

Some also tend to only show up in the middle of a configure script or a 
complex shell script.

> 2. Is any of your work being funded by VSI or others
No.

> (who pays for those servers you are running etc etc etc?)

My own funds.

> 3. This is a semi corollary to 1 & 2, Why not ????

Why should they?  The counters on the GNV downloads indicate that around 
50 people are downloading the updated GNV tools.  Hardly a large 
customer base.

I am also moving at a snails pace.

> What's impressed me about your work around Jenkins is that you
> obviously are looking towards the big picture for VMS so that
> through this type of mechanism you are wanting to build a framework
> so  that VMS can have open Source code flowing out as up to date as
> linux enjoys

Knowing how to debug when build scripts fail and how to use Jenkins is 
what is keeping me employed.

Also knowing the internals for the utilities.

> If we are going to even have a glimmer of hope in trying to attract
> young developers to VMS your big picture vision needs to be on-boarded
> quick smart. How many times I have I seen people try to bring an
> OpenSource product to VMS only to find it hasn't been touched in
> years and before too long the effort involved is deemed not worth it
> and they leave >
> Open Source is not individual code snippets anymore or one of tools
> - it requires an eco-system focus and that is what I get the feeling
> you  are trying to push VMS open source towards

We need standardized procedures.  We need to have OpenVMS systems join 
the build farms.

> Thank You for your vision for Open Source for VMS and Thank You for all your efforts

Your welcome.

Regards,
-John
wb8tyw at qsl.net_work