[Info-vax] Is there a way to enabling versioning in Samba

Jan-Erik Soderholm jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Mon Jul 24 17:26:35 EDT 2017


Den 2017-07-24 kl. 23:08, skrev Stephen Hoffman:
> On 2017-07-24 20:34:40 +0000, Jan-Erik Soderholm said:
> 
>> Then blame the craftsman, not the tool.
> 
> I'd rather understand the question and the situation, understand some of 
> the alternatives, and work toward an appropriate way forward.
> 
> Some developers are just unfamiliar with the available tools and 
> alternatives, or they've made very different trade-offs for their 
> environments.
> 
> Or the folks phrase their questions in unexpected ways.   Or with old 
> assumptions still latent in the questions or the requests.
> 
> File versions are another bit of arcana that new users get to learn. Though 
> certainly familiar to experienced OpenVMS users, I've yet to meet a 
> situation where a file version is a particularly good solution (as compared 
> with other approaches and other platforms), and rolling the file versions 
> is an oft-overlooked detail around ensuring application stability.      
> Missing the app- or environment-specific roll-over processing or using 
> ;32767 to disable certain operations is quite common among experienced 
> users, of course.  But how many of us have worked with apps that lack this?
> 
> But blaming the people involved?  That's seldom a good way forward.
> 
> As for the tools?   Using Samba is problematic on OpenVMS for various 
> reasons, beyond the insecurity of SMB1 and any (lack of) OpenVMS file 
> version handling.
> 
> 

But why try to look at file versions (as they are implemented in OpenVMS)
as a "solution" for something? It is just a feature that is there and it
is sometimes quite nice. I do not understand what you are after, would
you rather prefer that the file version feature in OpenVMS is removed
altogether in a future release?






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