[Info-vax] Workload manager for VMS, Should it come with one? (or at least a Scheduler?)

Kerry Main kemain.nospam at gmail.com
Sat Jul 29 20:55:38 EDT 2017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of Arne
> Vajhøj via Info-vax
> Sent: July 29, 2017 8:32 PM
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> Cc: Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] Workload manager for VMS, Should it come with
> one? (or at least a Scheduler?)
> 
> On 7/29/2017 8:22 PM, Kerry Main wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of
> Arne
> >> Vajhøj via Info-vax
> >> On 7/29/2017 5:26 PM, Kerry Main wrote:
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf
> Of IanD
> >>>> via Info-vax
> >>>> In the stone age we started with the VMS batch subsystem
> >>>
> >>> Its not a stone age concept. Batch files are an integral component of
> >>> any modern OS offering.
> >>
> >> "in the stone age" = many years ago aka place in timeline
> >> "stone age concept" = old fashioned concept aka obsolete
> >>
> >>>> Then evolved to scheduler tools, such as CA scheduler and DEC
> >>> scheduler
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> No - schedulers are tools that automate the "scheduling" of batch
> jobs.
> >>>
> >>> Two different components.
> >>
> >> True. But one build on the other.
> >
> > But they are not dependent on each other.
> 
> A schedule needs something to run the things that has been scheduled.
> 
> > A job scheduler is also used to schedule backups, AV, file transfer and
> > app/db maint jobs. In most cases, these jobs are integrated with
> > pre/post job processing code.
> >
> > As an example, if a scheduled AV job finds a virus, do you really want
> > to ignore this and allow a scheduled backup job to run with this virus
> > included?
> >
> > Or would you prefer that on detection of a virus, the post processing
> > sends an alert to page someone and subsequently prevents the
> backup of
> > that system from taking place?
> 
> The scheduler may have dependencies between jobs.
> 
> But that does not change that it need to have a way to run things.
> 
> Arne
> 

A job scheduler typically has a centralized server with multi-platform agents running on each remote server that it controls. The overall scheduling is done on the centralized server

Based on logic from the central server, the agent can kick off a batch job or a command file which does stuff that includes not only batch jobs, but also running a local executable i.e. not a batch job. The Agent provides feedback to the central server.


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com









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