[Info-vax] To MIME or not to MIME

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Sat Aug 4 13:20:28 EDT 2018


On 8/3/2018 6:58 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2018-08-03 22:06:57 +0000, Arne Vajhj said:
> 
>> On 8/3/2018 12:00 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>> On 2018-08-02 12:35:19 +0000, Simon Clubley said:
>>>> On 2018-08-01, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well, yes, don't use VMS for mail.  Plenty of other platforms in 
>>>>> use by  those who deal with mail.  VMS doesn't do so.  But in many 
>>>>> cases this doesn't distract from the usefullness of VMS.
>>>>
>>>> I'm amused/sad that in 2018 we still need to have a detailed 
>>>> discussion about how to read MIME messages on VMS.
>>>
>>> Mail processing is a common part of operating servers these days, too.
>>>
>>> Sending and variously receiving messages.
>>>
>>> For both production and for operational uses.
>>
>> That is not my impression.
> 
> I am referring to apps that are sending out and (less commonly) 
> receiving and processing mail messages, and not necessarily to running a 
> general-access mail server.

> I've written several OpenVMS-based apps that receive and process email 
> messages.  Works nicely for some tasks.

I agree with that.

Sending email is a common application requirements. And it will also be
so on VMS.

> Apparently you are utterly unfamiliar with this infamous message 
> generated by OpenVMS.  That happens to arise when OpenVMS error 
> formatter sends an email message.

I am.

> I believe I have mentioned Exchange Server and Postfix once or twice, 
> and I've mentioned that OpenVMS is not capable of running without a mail 
> server for many of these mail-related tasks with no provisions in the 
> default installation for sending and receiving mail from a remote mail 
> server and a mail server that might well be running Exchange Server or 
> Postfix or OpenSMTPD or various other choices here, and I've mentioned 
> my preference for Postfix to that of the current TCP/IP Services Mail 
> Server,

That I don't agree with.

I believe it is much better to just add a mail library to access
remote servers.

For native code.

Java, Python etc. already have such.

Arne





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