[Info-vax] The (now lost) future of Alpha.

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 08/07/2018 07:35 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/7/2018 7:19 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 08/06/2018 09:05 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 8/6/2018 6:27 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>> On 08/06/18 01:02, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> If we defined "standard" to mean ISO/IEC 9899:1999 or ISO/IEC 
>>>>> 9899:2011,
>>>>> then I don't believe open/write/read/close are there.
>>>>>
>>>>> At least I can not find them in C11 chapter 7 or appendix B.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never experienced a C environment that did not have them,
>>>>> but that is different from being standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> They may qualify as "de facto standard".
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it did originally develop in an ad hoc fashion, but have the
>>>> 1988 edition of K&R in front of me and that has a whole appendix on
>>>> the standard C library, as does the first edition from 1979. If there
>>>> is a standard, then that book and the one from Harbison & Steele, "C,
>>>> a Reference Manual", are the primary definitions of it historically,
>>>> though i'm sure there will have been many changes since.
>>>
>>> Not really.
>>>
>>> K&R was the standard 1978 to 1989.
>>>
>>> But since ANSI X3.159-1989 was published in 1989 then the ANSI/ISO
>>> standards has been the C standard.
>>
>> For some of us, K&R is still the standard for C and what6 ANSI
>> and ISO did was create a new language which should have had a
>> new name "D" was available.
> 
> I believe that even the gentleman K and R have recognized ANSI/ISO.

I recognize ANSI and ISO.  I do not agree that after they got done
with it the language remained C. And thus it should have had a new
name.  At least Stroustrup had the courtesy change the name for his
modified version of C.


bill