[Info-vax] Should VSI create a modern day VMS applications book ?

Dave Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Thu Aug 23 13:36:18 EDT 2018


On 8/23/2018 7:27 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 08/22/2018 10:40 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 8/22/2018 10:20 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 8/22/2018 12:21 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>> On 8/21/2018 10:41 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> But the companies that can change make money and those
>>>>> that are stuck in the old ways goes bankrupt.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, citation, please?  That's a rather interesting statement.  Not
>>>> sure I'm believing it.
>>>
>>> Kodak believed in real film not digital images.
>>
>> That's not "old ways", that's displaced product.  I seem to recall
>> some Kodak digital cameras.  Perhaps it was the ultra cheap products
>> from China and such that did in Kodak?
>>
>>> DEC believed in mini-computers not Unix and PC's.
>>
>> DEC sold microCPU based systems.  C-VAX, N-VAX, Alpha, etc.
>> DEC sold PCs.
>> Unix sucks.
>
> And yet it is probably the second largest OS in use today.  Go figure.

"Human intelligence" is a myth ....

As for "figuring", it is perceived as "cheap".  Though it's not, once 
support is included.

>> Yes, it was the "old ways" that caused DEC's decline.  One of the
>> biggest problems was the huge service organization and other such.
>> When computers sold for big bucks, there was funds for the overhead.
>> That definitely changed.
>
> Tell that to IBM and Unisys who still succeed using that model for
> their mainframe business.

Different business perhaps?  Maybe cost is not a big issue with such 
customers?  Many people using DEC gear were very cost conscious.

DEC had offices everywhere.  That ain't cheap.  Today's IT for the most 
part will not support such.  Computers are much better today.  It's a 
chip.  The CPU in a 780 was I seem to recall 4 large boards.  The "CPU 
on a chip" was a huge change in computing.  HUGE!

>>> Nokia believed in phones with Symbian and real keyboard not something
>>> iPhone like.
>>>
>>> Etc.
>>>
>>> I guess you can say that is is more common for those not changing to
>>> be bought by someone changing (for cents on the dollar) than to
>>> literally go bankrupt.
>>
>> That hasn't happened, at least for that reason, to any of my past
>> customers.
>
> Extremely small niches remain regardless of which way the industry
> goes.  Not a good example for this discussion.

And you "know" that all my past customers were a "small niche" ???





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