[Info-vax] RDB Question

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/2/18 11:06 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 12/2/2018 9:42 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 12/1/18 10:48 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>> On 12/1/2018 6:41 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>>> On 25/11/2018 9:36 pm, Kerry Main wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
>>>>>> Maher
>>>>>> via Info-vax
>>>>>> Sent: November 24, 2018 9:37 PM
>>>>>> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
>>>>>> Cc: Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] RDB Question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/11/2018 9:20 am, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/28/2018 9:59 AM, Kerry Main wrote:
>>>>>>>> For future consideration:
>>>>>>>> <http://sharksql.com/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pretty cool stuff ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very interesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did they actually sell this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems to be similar to MS LINQ but just for C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LINQ is a fucking desease! Designed for useless OO programmers who
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> know SQL or the importants of a properly designed DB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like React/Reduct, Vue, Angular, Typescrip, Babel, JSX, etc
>>>>>> are for
>>>>>> wanker OO programmers who don't no the DOM, Javascript, HTMLS, and 
>>>>>> CSS
>>>>>> :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Richard - I am curious to hear what you think about this:
>>>>> <http://sharksql.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> See presentation on capabilities under Documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kerry Main
>>>>> Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds really good. My question is "Why?"
>>>>
>>>> Good to have if Oracle abandons VMS but that would be enough to kill 
>>>> VMS
>>>> on its own.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like another who doesn't get out much.
>>>
>>> Richard, do you think everyone using VMS also uses Oracle?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Uh, Dave, Oracle is also the sole provider for RDB.  If they
>> abandon VMS RDB goes the way of the dodo, too.
>>
>> bill
>>
> 
> It's my assumption that Richard was not talking about Rdb.
> 
> VMS is the only user of Rdb.  To stop providing it for VMS means to 
> totally abandon the product.  

If they are abandoning VMS how would they continue to maintain RdB?

>                                Doesn't seem a wise move for what might be 
> a profitable product.  

Like most of the IT world today I doubt they see anything VMS as
potentially profitable.

>                          Not claiming Larry is wise, but, he's wise enough 
> to own an island in Hawaii.
> 
> Regardless, I'll extend my question to Rdb.
> 
> Does anyone think that everyone using VMS also uses Rdb?  

I expect that number is very small.  I know that when the University
was still a VMS shop we used Oracle, and not RdB.  Over the years I
have worked with a number of other VMS shops some government, some
DOD, other education sites and small business sites.  I have never
seen RdB.

>                                                           Although, I 
> will stipulate that all Rdb users also use VMS.
> 
> Just saying, I think Richard has some tunnel vision.  He uses Oracle, 
> therefore everyone must use Oracle.  It just ain't so.

I think it is more-so than you think.  I would bet that of those
VMS users with VMS based DBs there are more Oracle than RdB.

bill