[Info-vax] Fortran

Dave Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Mon Dec 3 19:12:26 EST 2018


On 12/3/2018 5:43 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> In article <pu45a6$vhd$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>
>> Personally, my perspective is that the only path forward for VSI is x86,
>> for now, and any efforts on VAX, Alpha, and that sinking ship detract
>> from what they need to be doing.
>
> Right.
>
>> And why do so?  Once VMS is running on x86, most should be able to adopt
>> that platform and use all the new goodies from VSI.
>
> Right.
>
>> Forget backward
>> compatibility.  Forget clustering with older platforms.  (Looking at you
>> Phillip).  It's not worth the effort.  Any efforts in that direction
>> lessen the "new goodies" from VSI.
>
> VSI has said that they will support mixed Alpha/x86 clusters for
> migration (though it might have to be a VSI version of VMS on Alpha).
> Have they changed that?  If this is not supported, it will be much
> HARDER to move to x86.  Nothing like HBVS for moving data to newer
> technology (have done so several times).
>

You may have noticed that I was stating my perspective.  As far as I 
know, VSI will allow Alpha and the sinking ship in a cluster with x86 
VMS.  Robert has mentioned all must be VSI releases, so unless something 
totally unexpected happens there will be no clustering with a VAX.

Your claim about how hard it will be to move is just that, your claim. 
I feel that you are mistaken.  But you are entitled to your opinion.

I'm rather sure that x86 VMS will still mount disks, should the 
interface be the same, from VAX, Alpha, and that sinking ship.

I'm even more sure that BACKUP will be able to take images from those 
disks and restore them to disks on an x86 running x86 VMS.

I'm guessing that x86 VMS will be able to have network links to Alpha 
and that sinking ship, and files, and save sets, could be copied, and / 
or restored.

As you should be able to see, the above is even better than using a 
cluster, since even moving from VAX will be possible.

I'm not concerned ....


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