[Info-vax] Problem with Filezilla connecting to OpenVMS

[pcoviello at gmail.com]

Part of the issue in going forward with upgrades to the latest and greatest
are the software companies, we had intentions of upgrading from 8.4 to the
latest VSI version... but Intersystems Cache does not support it! sigh!
now the question is do we just go up to 1H1 that's supported or stay where
we are... knowing that possibly 2 years down the road it probably will be
replaced.


On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 10:57:36 AM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2018-12-06 15:19:26 +0000, Dave Froble said:
> 
> > Ya know, the real problem here, is dumb ass developers who cannot 
> > figure out that perhaps there will be a time when a user just cannot 
> > use encryption, and provide for an unencrypted option.  Oh, no, that's 
> > way too reasonable.  Can't have that.
> 
> FileZilla offers FTP.
> 
> I wouldn't expect a security-focused client or server operating system 
> to even offer FTP access, though.  Certainly not integrated and not 
> easily accessible, if FTP is to be available all.
> 
> > Then again, it's their product, and it's worth just about what you are 
> > paying for it.  Ain't free software great?  Ain't the developers of 
> > free software the smartest people around?
> 
> The FileZilla folks are investing in current security.
> 
> OpenVMS hasn't been focusing on security.
> 
> VSI is working to change that focus, with VSI IP and with other changes 
> shipping and additional work pending and planned.
> 
> The folks at VSI have far more work awaiting too, and the upgrade 
> cycles and the time-to-exploit windows are only going to shorten.
> 
> OpenVMS is not good at notifications, with building cases for upgrades, 
> and certainly not with the rapid deployment and installation of patches 
> and upgrades.
> 
> We are no longer in that fondly-remembered run-it-forever world.
> 
> In this and in other similar cases, OpenVMS and OpenVMS sites are 
> getting dragged forward by other platforms.  That's... inauspicious.
> 
> In general, customers should be on HPE V8.4 at the oldest and with 
> current patches, and preferably either already running or migrating to 
> VSI OpenVMS.  Many are not.
> 
> > When you don't have to please the users, you can be as dumb as you want 
> > to be ....
> 
> There are many potential antecedents for that sentiment.
> 
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