[Info-vax] Fortran

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/6/18 8:26 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 12/6/2018 8:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 12/6/18 8:05 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 12/6/2018 8:58 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 12/5/18 10:07 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 12/5/2018 9:12 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/5/2018 9:00 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/5/2018 8:23 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/5/18 1:29 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Didn't Knuth say that global variables should be banned?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And Dijkstra said GOTO's should, too.  How did that work out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pretty well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many newer languages does not have GOTO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And in those newer languages that does have it, then
>>>>>>> its usage is typical extremely rare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We must exist in different worlds ...
>>>>>
>>>>> You see a lot of code in languages like C# and PHP use GOTO??
>>>>
>>>> I have never seen any code in PHP that wasn't totally
>>>> obfuscated and confusing even without GOTOs.
>>>
>>> A lot of PHP code is very similar to C just with all
>>> types removed and all variable names prefixed with $.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>
>> In my 40 years of doing C I have never seen C as bad as
>> most of the PHP I have seen outside of the Obfuscated
>> C Contest.  And even much of that was more understandable.
>>
>> I have seen PHP that was so confusing that after being away
>> from it for three years the original author couldn't figure
>> it out, or fix it.
> 
> Weird.
> 
> PHP is a rather simple language.
> 
> Usually very straight forward to see what it does. At least
> if one has seen a "C family" language before.
> 
> There are a lot of bad PHP code violating all sorts of
> best practices for design. But it is still readable.
> 
> A piece of trivial PHP code:
> 
> <?php
> function fac($n) {
>      if($n <= 1) {
>          return 1;
>      } else {
>          return $n * fac($n - 1);
>      }
> }
> 
> for($i = 0; $i <= 10; $i++) {
>      echo sprintf("fac(%d) = %d\r\n", $i, fac($i));
> }
> ?>
> 
> Most programmers should find that very simple.

And, as a trivial piece of code, it really does nothing.
That's easy to understand.  But, as soon as it gets complex
enough to do anything the fun begins.

bill