[Info-vax] Problem with Filezilla connecting to OpenVMS

[Kerry Main]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Simon Clubley
> via Info-vax
> Sent: December 11, 2018 3:31 AM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Cc: Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] Problem with Filezilla connecting to OpenVMS
> 
> On 2018-12-10, Kerry Main <kemain.nospam at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The very high number of commodity OS security patches (not bugs, but
> > security issues) released each and every month is fact. Surely you do
> > not dispute this?
> >
> 
> Once again, you ignore _why_ the number of security issues are higher on
> other platforms.
> 

But you can not argue that they are NOT much higher on other platforms. 

That's why many companies with commodity OS's have adopted "patch-n-pray"
policies. 

Never mind testing - just roll out the weekly patches and hope for the best.

> >
> > Having stated this, every platform is different and yes, while some
> > issues are common, many are not.
> >
> 
> That's certainly true. For example, VMS has security weaknesses that other
> operating systems do not, such as a privileged shell.
> 

Debateable as many conversations have shown here.

On the other hand, there are inherit weaknesses in Windows/*nix as well.

I repeat - no platform is 100% secure.

> >
> > Yes, additional focus is required to enhance OpenVMS security.
> > Contrary to what you seem to be spreading, no one here that I can
> > recall has stated OpenVMS is 100% secure.
> >
> 
> Well, that's a load of nonsense Kerry.
> 

Please re-post any thread where anyone stated OpenVMS was 100% secure.

> What about the idiotic language on VSI's website saying that VMS is the
most
> secure operating system on the planet ?
> 
> That's a feeling echoed in parts of the VMS user community.
> 
> Simon.

So you disagree with marketing and their view about emphasizing the relative
few # of issues in the past vs. what you say are potential issues. Fine. 

I do expect there will be initial issues as it is new to the platform, but
do you really think that there will be 20-30+ security (not bugs) issues
each and every month for OpenVMS after V9.2?

The commodity OS culture has accepted this behaviour as normal and adapted
with patch-n-pray.

I do not think the OpenVMS culture will be so accommodating.

How many readers here think the OpenVMS Customer culture would accept 20-30+
security issues released each and every month in the time following the V9.2
release?

The culture of a platform is often not discussed here, but imho, this is a
big differentiator for OpenVMS.

Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com