[Info-vax] Problem with Filezilla connecting to OpenVMS
Simon Clubley
clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Tue Dec 11 13:15:35 EST 2018
On 2018-12-11, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> On 12/11/2018 8:39 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 12/11/18 8:19 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>
>>> BSS could run privileged programs just fine, but BSS, unlike DCL,
>>> will never, ever, see the privileges of the program it has just
>>> started.
>>>
>>> The only way for BSS to get privileges is to be run by a privileged
>>> user.
>>>
>>
>> Well, it's probably a matter of semantics, but a Unix Shell can be
>> made to run with privilege when started by an ordinary user, but
>> that requires using a feature that has been considered dangerous and
>> a bad idea (even by the man who created it) for a long time.
>>
>
> From what you're writing, he still created it. Then the question
> becomes, how many use the capability. Perhaps security is based upon
> usage, regardless of the OS capabilities?
>
It was a joke David. :-)
To enable the option Bill is thinking of, Brian would already need
to have root level access.
In VMS land, it would be like saying yes, I can write a program as
a non-privileged user that runs with full privileges provided you
give me the password to SYSTEM and then let me use INSTALL to install
my program will full privileges. :-)
Simon.
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