[Info-vax] Opportunity for VSI?

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/13/18 8:31 PM, Milton Baar wrote:
> On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 9:40:06 AM UTC+11, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 12/13/18 4:17 PM, Milton Baar wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 4:40:40 AM UTC+11, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>> On 2018-12-13 02:44:23 +0000, Milton Baar said:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.computerworld.com.au/article/643780/university-canberra-revives-mainframe-degree-course/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So given that there are quite likely OpenVMS sites that are common, and
>>>>> I personally know of quite a few that have both OpenVMS and SystemZ,
>>>>> would VSI be interested in partnering with an Australian University?
>>>>
>>>> By "partnering" and "opportunity" here, may I presume that what is
>>>> meant is "granting free software and free hardware, granting free
>>>> hardware and software support and quite probably including on-site
>>>> installation and maintenance, and granting an endowment* sufficient to
>>>> cover staff and incidentals and sundries and the use of the
>>>> University's name and reputation in associated advertising", right?
>>>>
>>>> Most schools are understandably interested in acquiring endowments
>>>> after all, though—being endowments—these often do include terms and
>>>> conditions.
>>>>
>>>> At least for the next several years, VSI would seemingly have a few
>>>> other and higher-priority uses for any cash surfeit they might
>>>> encounter.
>>>>
>>>> *big wads of cash with strings attached, in the vernacular.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC
>>>
>>> Or perhaps just granting an educational or discounted license...there is plenty of inexpensive hardware around...and I don't think an endowment would be either needed or likely.
>>>
>>> This could be a way for OpenVMS to be back in the educational sector with the possibly positive flow-on effects.  I don't think that the IBM arrangement is an act of charity on their behalf, they understand the benefits as DEC once did.
>>>
>>
>> HP had a costless education license. It did not help keep VMS
>> around Universities it was already at and certainly didn't
>> bring it into new locations.  Trust me, I know.  I fought
>> that battle until finally being told the equipment had to be
>> removed.
>>
>> bill
> 
> Bill
> 
> I understand what happened in the past.  However, this is happening now so clearly some interest is, once again, being displayed...
> 

What's happening now?  Where do you see Universities introducing
VMS into their curriculum?

Don't confuse what IBM does as anything related to VMS.  While VMS
declined Mainframes, particularly those from IBM, have continued
to flourish.

bill