[Info-vax] Opportunity for VSI?

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Thu Dec 13 22:44:49 EST 2018


On 12/13/2018 10:18 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/13/18 9:53 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> Stephen Hoffman  <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
>>> To initiate a vendor-specific degree-granting program or a trade school
>>> job-training program, most any school is going to want more than media
>>> and download codes and a rack of free servers.  Servers that'll
>>> probably quickly be running Linux too, but I digress.  The folks
>>> responsible for the program are going to want funding for staff, and
>>> installation and hardware support, and sundries.
>>
>> Right.  You're not going to get that, you can't even hope for that.
>>
>> What you CAN hope for is for colleges to use VMS in an operating systems
>> class for comparison purposes... set up a small cluster of generic 
>> hardware
>> to run VMS one day, Linux the next day, maybe Windows the day after that.
> 
> Wishful thinking.  The machines used in University level courses do
> not jump around from one OS to another at the whim of some professor.
> I had boxes running Windows, boxes running Linux, boxes running BSD
> and sometimes boxes running more obscure OSes for special projects.

That may have been the way of thinking for 10-20-30 years ago.

Today both teachers and students can spin up as many VM's as they want
on their own laptops.

> They aren't interested in comparing anything to VMS because there is
> no one left who knows what VMS is.  There are no textbooks that even
> mention it.

Probably not many. But none????

> Like the HP educational program there are too many people who
> have no experience or understanding of just how an academic
> CS department works trying to make plans for them.  If I
> couldn't keep VMS in a department that already had hardware,
> licenses and operational systems how can you possibly expect
> people who have never used it, seen it or even heard of it
> to suddenly decide to put out the expense and effort needed
> to incorporate it into an Operating Systems Course?

Interest in looking at something different.

Arne




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