[Info-vax] Opportunity for VSI?

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 12/15/2018 5:21 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 12/15/2018 3:39 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 12/15/2018 3:17 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>> On 12/15/2018 3:06 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 12/15/2018 12:08 PM, John Reagan wrote:
>>>>> Ding, ding, ding.  We have a winner!
>>>>>
>>>>> For the surveys we've received for possible V9 x86 early
>>>>> adopters/testers, Pascal has been high on the list.  The spread of
>>>>> OpenVMS languages is not what the rest of the world expects.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I've already hooked the Pascal frontend to our GEM-to-LLVM
>>>>> converter and have generated code.  We've been debugging some issues
>>>>> with Pascal SETs as that uses GEM datatypes that neither BLISS or C
>>>>> has pushed on so far.  Of course, I can't really execute anything
>>>>> yet.  (I could hack up a Linux testbench since we used to have a
>>>>> libpas.so on Tru64 that would probably work but by the time I get it
>>>>> working, I won't need it)
>>>>
>>>> The VMS user base and the IT industry in general are
>>>> very different.
>>>>
>>>> Half the popular stuff is not even available on VMS.
>>>>
>>>> But even considering that then I am surprised about the
>>>> Pascal interest.
>>>>
>>>> Pascal is probably the most "modern" language on VMS
>>>> after C++ (not counting script languages and Java stuff).
>>>>
>>>> But it is very rare that I see questions related to
>>>> Pascal here.
>>>
>>> Maybe Pascal, and other VMS stuff, isn't the squeaky wheels ??
>>
>> I really like Pascal as a language.
>>
>> But I would still expect heavy Pascal usage to result in
>> questions, answers, comments, open source etc..
> 
> Or, possibly, it works so well there are no questions?

My experience is that no matter how good something is then there
will always be people being able to get themselves into problems.

But even if nobody had any problems, then I would expect to
see some success stories, some requests for enhancements,
some open source / freeware contributions, some job ads etc..

Unless all users work within the intelligence community, then
I would expect to see some "digital footprint" of the usage.

Arne