[Info-vax] Error installing DECSet

Dave Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Thu Dec 20 21:13:24 EST 2018


On 12/20/2018 2:26 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2018-12-20 18:15:58 +0000, Ben Lambert said:
>
>> Not that I'm one to normally defend HPE given the massacre that has
>> recently occurred with regard to VMS info on their website, but
>> there's some confusion going on here.  The files on the HPE site are
>> ok; they have been provided in ZIP format for quite a while now.
>>
>> The issue is that Antonio was unzipping them on a Rasperry Pi (not on
>> the virtual VAX) and then creating an ISO-9660 of the extracted files
>> to mount on the VAX via a virtual CD-ROM drive.  This is what is
>> truncating the filenames, and losing the file attributes.
>
> Yeah, that won't work.
>
> There are more than a few other folks that have learned that BACKUP has
> some severe and long-standing issues with its RMS metadata expectations,
> and RMS metadata routinely gets stripped on other platforms.  BACKUP
> /REPAIR is helpful for the OpenVMS releases recent enough to have that
> and the [000TOOLS]RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_ATTRIBUTES.COM on the Freeware
> and other similar metadata-related tools and commands are how we've all
> dealt with this issue.  And this will continue to trip new users.  This
> rather than, you know, fixing BACKUP.
>
> On the plus side, a wholesale replacement is probably a better path now
> rather than further work on BACKUP, so there's that.
>
> And ISO-9660 support on OpenVMS is ISO-9660:1988, and lacks more recent
> extensions and amendments; without support for the stuff that most folks
> use and expect. Joliet, Rock Ridge, HFS and UDF are not supported by
> OpenVMS.
>
>

I got no problem with BACKUP

Yes, it takes a bit of knowledge, but I have no problem with file 
characteristics

If what is inside that ZIP file is an ISO image, then using LD to just 
mount it is rather simple.

Maybe I'm just old school, but, I don't have a problem with needing a 
bit of knowledge to work with a server OS.

And yes, always room for improvement.

Note to Antonio, don't put anything in the MFD, dev:[0,0]

Create a directory or sub-directory for such stuff

Don't mix other files with the OS files.

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