[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

[Dave Froble]

On 12/25/2018 2:18 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> In article <pvs0ti$1q65$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>
>> GUI is not really important for VMS.
>
> It depends on what one does with VMS.
>
>> Sure a newer X and GTK could be nice, but I don't think it would help
>> VSI sell a single VMS license.
>
> I'm not sure.  Obviously, people still on VMS are dependent on a modern
> GUI.  But it might open the door to some NEW customers.  It doesn't have
> to have all the bells and whistles.  A reasonably modern web browser
> would probably be enough.  :-|
>

Ok, this is one perspective, and it doesn't mean I'm right or wrong, 
just what I'm thinking.

By this time I, and probably most, are spoiled by GUI user interfaces. 
One of the most prevalent is WEENDOZE.  Not that this is entirely good, 
from my perspective.

The DECwindows user interface is rather dated, and lacking in some 
areas.  It's also a question whether the time and effort required to 
"modernize" it is the best use of time and resources.  It's also not 
what most users will be familiar with.

Ok, going aside for a moment, the biggest problem with WEENDOZE, from my 
perspective, is it's continual changing.  I understand that Microsoft 
wants to sell OS licenses, and continuing changes is a method to do 
that.  But I'm rather upset when I must use WEENDOZE 7, and I wiped the 
disk on which I had installed WEENDOZE 10 because I REALLY didn't like 
it.  I'm Ok with WEENDOZE XP, but it's no longer supported, and doesn't 
have drivers for newer HW.  For me, there is no good options with WEENDOZE.

Back to VMS, I'd like some functionality to be presented in a GUI. 
Looking at the disks, DIRECTORY, gives a better "picture" in a GUI. 
Managing VMS using various GUI tools would be very nice to have.

So, what to do?  Put effort into DECwindows?  Or another option? 
Everything using a browser?  Don't really like that.  Use workstations, 
WEENDOZE or other, with apps on the workstation to provide the GUI 
environment?

It's a tough question.  Having GUI based tools is desirable.  The 
details of getting there is the problem.

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