[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Tue Dec 25 17:42:15 EST 2018


On 12/25/2018 5:30 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/25/18 4:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 12/25/2018 4:07 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 12/25/18 2:15 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 12/25/2018 2:18 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>> In article <pvs0ti$1q65$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, 
>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>>>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>>>> GUI is not really important for VMS.
>>>>>
>>>>> It depends on what one does with VMS.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure a newer X and GTK could be nice, but I don't think it would help
>>>>>> VSI sell a single VMS license.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure.  Obviously, people still on VMS are dependent on a 
>>>>> modern
>>>>> GUI.  But it might open the door to some NEW customers.  It doesn't 
>>>>> have
>>>>> to have all the bells and whistles.  A reasonably modern web browser
>>>>> would probably be enough.  :-|
>>>>
>>>> You think there will be people willing to pay for a VMS license
>>>> for a box used for web browsing running VMS?
>>>>
>>>> I don't see that as realistic.
>>>
>>> Maybe not, but people running VMS may want to browse the web
>>> without having to go to a different machine just for that one
>>> trivial task.
>>
>> Sure - there will be a decent number of people that would like
>> that.
>>
>> But VSI is a business. If the "would like" does not mean
>> extra sales, then ...
>>
>> And we should not blame VSI for that. We want them to
>> prosper.
>>
>> Besides most web browser technology is open source today.
>> Nothing prevents us from creating a browser for VMS ourselves
>> if we really want it.
> 
> OK, let's turn it around and look from a different view.
> If I have to have Windows on all  my desktops, why would
> I choose to put something else in my server room when I
> can also put Windows there and then I only have one type
> of system to administer and maintain.

Server requirements are different than desktop requirements.

And besides managing Windows server and Windows desktop has
diverged quite a bit the last few decades.

This is not just a theory. The most common combo today is
probably Windows on desktop, Windows on servers directly
serving the PC's (AD, file & print, Exchange etc.)
and Linux on all other servers.

Arne



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