[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/25/18 7:22 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 12/25/2018 5:30 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 12/25/18 4:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 12/25/2018 4:07 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 12/25/18 2:15 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 12/25/2018 2:18 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>>> In article <pvs0ti$1q65$1 at gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>>>>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>>>>> GUI is not really important for VMS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It depends on what one does with VMS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure a newer X and GTK could be nice, but I don't think it would 
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> VSI sell a single VMS license.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure.  Obviously, people still on VMS are dependent on a
>>>>>> modern
>>>>>> GUI.  But it might open the door to some NEW customers.  It doesn't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to have all the bells and whistles.  A reasonably modern web browser
>>>>>> would probably be enough.  :-|
>>>>>
>>>>> You think there will be people willing to pay for a VMS license
>>>>> for a box used for web browsing running VMS?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see that as realistic.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not, but people running VMS may want to browse the web
>>>> without having to go to a different machine just for that one
>>>> trivial task.
>>>
>>> Sure - there will be a decent number of people that would like
>>> that.
>>>
>>> But VSI is a business. If the "would like" does not mean
>>> extra sales, then ...
>>>
>>> And we should not blame VSI for that. We want them to
>>> prosper.
>>>
>>> Besides most web browser technology is open source today.
>>> Nothing prevents us from creating a browser for VMS ourselves
>>> if we really want it.
>>>
>>
>> OK, let's turn it around and look from a different view.
>> If I have to have Windows on all  my desktops, why would
>> I choose to put something else in my server room when I
>> can also put Windows there and then I only have one type
>> of system to administer and maintain.
>>
>> bill
> 
> One could consider VMS as a much better server OS.  I most certainly do, 
> and if it's being once again maintained, then it will be even better for 
> some things.

Yes, but the industry doesn't rally around you.  When the time to
spend the money comes VMS is the red headed stepchild.  If I have
500 Windows systems and one VMS system that requires special hardware
and specially qualified people to work on it it better bring something
really tangible to the table.  And one man's opinion that it is better
compared to an industry that doesn't even remember what it is isn't
going to do it.  VMS is playing catch-up and it is playing it from
a very poor position.

bill