[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC
Dave Froble
davef at tsoft-inc.com
Wed Dec 26 21:42:12 EST 2018
On 12/26/2018 9:11 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/26/18 8:52 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 12/26/2018 12:36 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>
>>> Define "vendor". All of the current browsers, except one, are
>>> developed by third party sources. Why should it be otherwise?
>>> No one here is asking VSI to develop a web browser. Only to
>>> provide the OS necessary parts to run one.
>>
>> And what does that mean? Turn VMS into WEENDOZE and Linux? Why bother?
>>
>> If the browsers are developed to work in specific environments, then
>> how can an environment that is different be expected to support those
>> browsers?
>>
>> If the tools used to develop a browser are specific to Linux or
>> WEENDOZE, then the development of the browser(s) itself precludes
>> environments where the tools don't exist, or perhaps cannot exist.
>>
>
> Sigh.....
>
>
> Back in September of 1980 there was a paper written called "A
> Virtual Operating System". This was long before POSIX was even
> a gleam in some programmer's eye. It consisted of Primitives,
> Utilities and a Shell. It allowed a lot of programs to be
> that could be run on a number of very disparate Operating
> Systems. GCOS, Primos, MP/OS, TOPS, RSX, RT-11, RSTS, Unix,
> Multics, Exec-8, UCSD-Pascal, CP/M, ISIS, MVS, VM/CMS and
> numerous others, and yes, VMS. Sadly, it was an academic
> endeavour and we all know what happens when academics get
> bored. But the fact is it was done and could be done again.
> We now have the POSIX standard as a target. It was another
> failure by the owners of VMS when they dropped yet another
> ball. It can be fixed.
>
> bill
POSIX ended up being "everybody look and act like Unix".
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